$1/$2 on a Wednesday night at 9pm

V1: Actual OMC. Maybe VPIPs a bit too much for the label, but he is literally an old man drinking a coffee at 9pm. Tightest player at a pretty action table. Starts hand with $140.

V2: MAWG. Huge fish. Has been absolutely blasting and is down about $500. Multiple times this session he has bet big on the river as a bluff, including sometimes turning hands like bottom pair into a bluff. V2 and I have a bit of a dynamic going because I have raised and re-raised him pre-flop several times recently which he seems annoyed by. Starts hand with $120.

H: 30's WG. One of the tighter players at the table, but I have been playing pretty aggressively today, especially against the action players at the table. My aggressiveness has been commented on by several players, including both V1 and V2. I cover both Villains.

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Hero is UTG and opens 9c9s to $10.

V1 is UTG1 and 3bets to $25 (his first 3bet in 4 hours)

V2 is BTN and cold-calls $25.

Hero calls $15?

Flop: 8h7d5d (Pot: $70 after rake)

Checks around.

Turn: 8h7d5d 8d ($70)

Hero checks. V1 checks. V2 checks his cards and bets $20. Hero calls. V1 calls.

River: 8h7d5d 8d 6s ($130)

Hero? V1 has $100 behind and V2 has $80.

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Are you donking this river? Or giving rope to V2 who has bluffed the river multiple times already today, although never into two people in a 3bet pot.

Would love to get some feedback on other streets in this hand. On one hand, this is a very simple spot because I flop an overpair and a gutshot at 1.5 SPR. On the other, doesn't V1 just always have AA here? I believe this player would check the flop with an overpair OOP, but does he check the turn?

Should I bet the turn myself? Should I be check/jamming the turn against the fish?

Pre-flop is also kind of uncomfortable at this stack depth. Are you calling the 3bet at this stack depth, getting 4-to-1?

I like how you played this. I jam river for value against 2 Vs. Esp since OMC will check behind an overpair on this runout.

Preflop: I think this is okay closing the action mw with fish in the hand. Prefer to fold HU oop without V2 at this depth against OMC.

Flop: There's an argument to donk here. We have more sets, two pair and combo draws but we have fewer NFDs. OMC will raise his overpairs sometimes and fold some of his AK and AQ. V2 will float too wide.

Turn: I can find a fold here sometimes. We have no diamond and V2 can have some small flushes and 87s too. OMC can only continue with a high diamond - Adx or AxKd. He can also raise his KdKx AdAx here. So we are vulnerable to V1 raise not closing the action. Betting and check/jamming makes little sense. I'd rather get to showdown cheaply.

River: A river bet targets V1 only. I don't think v1 can bet anything but his nut flushes. V2 either has nothing or he has us beat. I'd rather x/c and get 5-2 to call V2's bluff jam. So I think x/c>blocker bet>jam.

I think you played the hand fine.

V2 sounds like he'd be betting flop with his flush draws, and / or going bigger on turn. His smallish bet seems more like 8x.

I think you're good to check here. If V1 bets and V2 calls, we can fold. But otherwise, if it checks to V2 and he bets, we just call, hoping V1 also cals.



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I probably fold pre vs someone who never 3bets and just 3bet an UTG opener. I would be setmining but the call closing the action is ok too.

I would check the river, there are bigger over pairs in both their ranges anyway, if it gets checked around and we take it down I would be fine with it. If v1 bets and v2 raises, we can easily fold (or if v1 bets big and v2 calls).

You all are folding top straight on the river??? You need to bet to get value from OMC's QQ+. If someone has slow played a boat or flush this shallow, they have your money.

No sorry I forgot there's a flush so that's what I was concerned with so if someone bets and the other guy raises him I'm folding. I would hate to bet and get raised so I'd rather call a reasonable bet. The other villain bet when the flush competed after double checking his cards.

We are pretty shallow w/both. Think I like checking turn and jamming over v2; at this spr feels like hand protection takes precedent

Preflop is very marginal this shallow even given odds. This is a 3bet from OMC UTG+1 vs UTG. But...odds I suppose.

Turn feels similar although V1 has declined two chances to bet so I'm feeling a lot less scared of his hand than I was.

River I would prefer to check if the two opponents' positions were reversed. In this configuration I think V1 checks every time and then it depends on whether V2 is wild enough to double barrel bluff against two opponents. A check-jam is going to get both players to fold almost everything. I would just be inclined to come out swinging and get crying calls from time to time rather than getting check backs from scared overpairs.

Absolutely not folding under any circumstances. We have V1 beaten pretty much 100% of the time and V2 can have all sorts of things.

Edit: I didn't take the flush into account either, so I'd definitely tone down my last paragraph.

The only way I would consider folding river is if I check, V1 jams $100, and V2 calls All-in for $80. That said, I would probably strongly consider over-calling (I am a pretty big station TBF).

V1 has 1 or maybe 2 combos that beat me: AKdd and AQdd. Even then, I would discount both because A) OMC doesn't always 3bet these hands; B) OMC might bet flop with NFD; C) OMC might bet turn with NF; D) OMC might check/jam turn with NF facing bet and call. Does an OMC jam river as a bluff though? Not likely, but maybe he spazzes and overplays AdAx or KdKx because he doesn't want to check/call against the fish on a scary board.

V2 here is one or maybe two steps above a complete drooler. He can easily call river with a worse hand than 99 (44, 45s, A8s, TT, JJ, 89s). I don't know that all of these hands are in his range, but the way this guy was playing I would not rule any of them out.

I agree pre-flop is marginal, and I can accept that it might be close to 0EV. I was planning on proudly folding to OMC's small 3bet before V2 cold-called. Calling HU against OMC is absolutely a mistake I would have made when I first started playing live poker a couple years ago.

I said I would fold, if V1 bets and V2 calls. If V1 checks, and V2 bets, I said I would call. I don't think an OMC is going to be betting on the river here without at least having a flush.

At this stack depth, I would call against any two random V's, but against an OMC, it's an exploitative fold.

If we had T9, it would be a harder fold.

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I fold pre and might fold turn too.

Appreciate the constructive feedback per usual. Interesting to me that there wasn't really a consensus on this spot. I guess not surprising though since there are several different marginal decision points in this hand, and one range that is very much unknown.

Not much of a reveal but the result of this hand was that I donk jammed the river for $100 effective and both players snap folded.

I now think jamming the river may have been a mistake. If I donk, I think I should go small to try and get a crying call from V1's overpairs (and whatever garbage V2 might have). I didn't even really consider this option, since a jam is for well under pot. Really though, I think I should check and give V2 rope. Usually my opponents at $1/$2 aren't capable of bluffing the river multiway, but I do think this guy was. Similarly, while many passive opponents might check back a hand like 44 or A8s on this river, I think this opponent might bet. So by checking, I don't always miss out when my opponent has worse value and I can occasionally induce him to punt.

Probably xc since you described v2 as a blaster.