most profitable approach to loose passive games
Join Date: Mar 2013
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I just had a general poker question about the best way to approach these loose passive games. do you think the most profitable way would be to raise larger preflop ( my standard is 5x, but should it be 6 or 7 ) then double barrel bluffing a lot since their calling range on the flop is wide. or should I just limp with hands I normally raise (obviously not tt-aa ), and basically play fit or fold.
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Its more complicated than that but generally A is going to work better than B
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Play tight pre. You can limp wide in late position if they're paying off three streets with TPNK on almost any board. Don't run big bluffs. Cbet and give up usually. Will raise up to 10bb depending on how loose (we want one or two calls max). Only raise with TT+, AQ+ OOP. In late position raise with AJ+, 99+, KQ.
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Play a strong range.
Vale bet like hell.
Profit.
Join Date: Sep 2009
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In these games...all your profit will come from getting paid off with the nuts....or close to it.
But yes play tag as hell...which is tough for me to accept sometimes since i loving playing lag
Join Date: Sep 2014
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You should only be bluffing when clear opportunities present themselves. Most of the money to be made in these games is by taking your opponents to value town.
Join Date: Mar 2013
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when your going 4 or 5 ways to the flop, there aren't that many bluffing opportunities, unless you flop some type of draw.
Join Date: Sep 2014
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If you don't see any clear opportunities for bluffs that are likely to work, then you shouldn't bluff at all. It's really that simple.
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It's tempting to join limpfests, but don't do it. Get good starting hands and get money in the pot. Make good hands post flop and get more money in the pot.
Join Date: Sep 2012
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They're loose, so you're tempted to lower your post-flop requirements, but their looseness often means you are multi-way, so you should bluff less and raise your post-flop requirements compared to playing heads-up. I see players who are used to being aggressive raising with a hand like KJo, flopping top pair, and betting every street against a loose-passive player who seems to obviously check-calling three times with two pair.
They're loose, so they have a wider range, but they're passive, so they usually require a stronger hand than average to bet or raise. I see players who don't respect a bet from a calling station and spew their entire stack with top pair hands.
Double barreling seems horrible. I bluff less. I even cbet less. The main adjustment I actually make preflop is limping with more hands in early position because I no longer fear a raise behind me. I also make more smaller pot-builder raises with hands that I expect to be called instead of raising hoping to isolate and limp hands that I might raise if those players will fold.
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Make big pots with good hands.