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Monotone flop, TPTK and balms run out Monotone flop, TPTK and balms run out

04-15-2024 , 03:39 PM
7 handed 2-3-5NL

H utg AcQc opens to $20
6 callers.

(133) Flop: Qs 9s 5s
H checks. Next player bets $45. 3 folds. BB calls. Hero calls.

($268) Turn: 4d
Check. Check. V bets $100.
Call. H calls.

($568) River 3h
Check. Check. V all-in $501.
Fold.
Hero covers.
H ???

V is a solid daily player.


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04-15-2024 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by OGfromOCC
7 handed 2-3-5NL

H utg AcQc opens to $20
6 callers.

(133) Flop: Qs 9s 5s
H checks. Next player bets $45. 3 folds. BB calls. Hero calls.

($268) Turn: 4d
Check. Check. V bets $100.
Call. H calls.

($568) River 3h
Check. Check. V all-in $501.
Fold.
Hero covers.
H ???

V is a solid daily player.


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04-15-2024 , 03:46 PM
Sorry, title should read “bland run out”


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04-15-2024 , 03:53 PM
Ouch. How solid? Solid as in he could be bluffing or solid as in you are probably toast? Either way, I let it go. I might just fold the turn -- you can't really improve, and this guy is betting into two players.
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04-15-2024 , 03:58 PM
id fold turn
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04-15-2024 , 04:13 PM
I like how you played flop.

Turn is close, but it's fine to call turn.

With the action up to river, I am folding to the river shove barring extra info.
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04-15-2024 , 04:14 PM
I'd bet this flop - denying equity to single spade hands is very important, and there's value to be had. As played not folding to the turn bet - it's small relative to the pot, would think a flush goes bigger. As played fold river.
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04-15-2024 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfan655
I'd bet this flop - denying equity to single spade hands is very important, and there's value to be had. As played not folding to the turn bet - it's small relative to the pot, would think a flush goes bigger. As played fold river.
Don't you think it is overly optimistic to bet AQ 7-ways into the whole field on this monotone flops?

For example, I play a lot of bomb pots in LA. It would be pretty big spew to lead out into a 7way bomb pot with TPTK on this Queen high monotone flop. I imagine that SRP super multiway flatting and overcall ranges are more skewed towards suited hands than the any two cards that people have in bomb pots.

While there is less chance of someone having garbage 2pair like 95 offsuit/Q5 offsuit or a totally garbage suited hand like 82ss that flopped here than in a bomb pot, there are a lot of SCs, SGs, S2Gs, and maybe even S3Gs, bad Kxs, and bad Jxs.

We run into too much 2pair+ and AsXx offsuit 7-ways here. I prefer a flop check for those reasons.
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04-15-2024 , 11:55 PM
I called and the V showed AsTs.
I was a donkey today.


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04-17-2024 , 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Smoola1981
Don't you think it is overly optimistic to bet AQ 7-ways into the whole field on this monotone flops?

For example, I play a lot of bomb pots in LA. It would be pretty big spew to lead out into a 7way bomb pot with TPTK on this Queen high monotone flop. I imagine that SRP super multiway flatting and overcall ranges are more skewed towards suited hands than the any two cards that people have in bomb pots.

While there is less chance of someone having garbage 2pair like 95 offsuit/Q5 offsuit or a totally garbage suited hand like 82ss that flopped here than in a bomb pot, there are a lot of SCs, SGs, S2Gs, and maybe even S3Gs, bad Kxs, and bad Jxs.

We run into too much 2pair+ and AsXx offsuit 7-ways here. I prefer a flop check for those reasons.
Yeh didnt realize its 7 ways. It's still close - 5 way I would definitely lead but you might be right on this.
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04-17-2024 , 09:39 AM
I fold flop.

It's seven ways, V bets into 6 opponents after just two players check to him, and gets called by the BB. Can't imagine we're ever good in this spot.

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