Hey all, I'm new to these forums so forgive me if I make some formatting errors.
At this particular card room, it's a 2$ BB and SB post but 4$ to limp.
Hero has AKo in the SB.

Hero (65bb) perceived as TAG
MP is a light preflop raiser (55bb)
CO is tight passive (~170bb)
BTN is a TAG. (80bb)

Before I explain the hand, it should be known that the btn and I were talking about preflop raising ranges and preflop 3 betting ranges as I had gone AI preflop (with 40bb) about a half hour before to his pf raise and he folded AQ Preflop. We concluded that AQ isn't ahead of my preflop shoving range at this point. We also spoke about how it's not worth flipping even with a hand like QQ to a pf shove as I'm not often shoving worse pf.

Action PF:
MP raises to 15
CO calls
BTN raises to 30
SB (hero) shoves

Any input is appreciated! Thanks for reading!

Please stop discussing poker strategy at the table

you can shove AK for 65bb all day in this spot with the dead money: since your equity runs close in coinflip situations, the overlay makes it profitable to squeeze.

To figure if the shove is beneficial, you must decide what your shove is actually doing for you rather than a 3 bet. Is it +EV yes. What do you want (and think) players will do with AQ KQs AJs TT JJ if you shove vs 3 bet?

That is how you determine what is the best action. You need them to make a mistake. You guide them to make a mistake, or the biggest mistake possible.

Don't talk poker strat at the table.

You can make some light, idle chit chat about hands ("Damn, AK never wins. However, I noticed 4s are coming up a lot today..."), but never give any idea that you may know anything.

Welcome to the forums

Shove is good. If someone calls with better, they call with better here.

Shoving 65bb to win 23bb, or 140~ if called. Huge win.

Like a couple others have already said, for the love of god stop talking strategy at the table.

Our main concern here is BTN's range for 3betting. (You sure this guy's a tag? Making a min3bet? Pretty bad tag.) If there's a chance you think he can 3bet there with JJ QQ AK or even AQ, and is even capable of folding some of those hands to your jam, then shoving is clearly correct, it's a huge dead money win.
Even if he calls with those flipping hands every single time it's still profitable to flip because of the $30 in dead money from the other two guys who will get out of the way the vast majority of the time when you jam. If you have some sick read that he only 3bets AA KK just fold and look for a better spot. Should be playing 100bb's at all times anyway.

agree that we shouldn't talk strategy and BTN 3! range here is important.
due to stack sizes, BTN will be more likely have 4:1 to call and any pair will be +EV there against JJ+, AK.. we will be flipping here a lot unless he has AQ.

ap, cant call, cant fold, call....

I think we are good to shove here as long as we can be safe to assume BTN is a thinker AND recognizes MP opens light, hence is opening up his 3b range. We certainly crush V1's range. My gut says we can, and well, we have 55bb's. This is what you need to do when short stacking.

One point to make about formatting: if you're going to post stacks in terms of BB's, post the bet sizes the same way. Reads a little easier.

Most importantly though: DON'T TALK STRAT AT THE TABLE!!! (As if you haven't heard that enough )

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