1/3 Effective stacks mostly around 500, 7 handed

UTG limp, hero in CO with 5s5c raises to $15. BU, SB, BB, and UTG all call.

Flop ($70) 7d 5h 2c

Checks to hero, who bets $25

SB (30s asian guy, wide and aggressive with value. Making lots of two pair and straights but also punting off buy ins) call

BB (50s asian guy, a little wide but solid postflop. Watching Go strategy videos on his phone. Big consistent winner tonight) call

Turn ($145) 4d

SB donks $50, BB calls

Hero?

Tough decision - call and fold river on a bad run-out, or raise/jam and only get called by better hands or hands with lots of equity to improve.

In a loose-action game like this, I'd probably raise bigger pre. Not much you can do now on the flop. Folding is obviously out of the question. The blinds could be here with 63s or A3s, or one or the other or both could be on a flush draw or some sort of combo draw.

You've only got $40 in the pot. Not sure we want to put our whole stack at risk here, against two V's. I'd probably just flat call, and see what happens on the river.

Hm maybe this was more straightforward than I thought. Would you bet for value on a brick river?

Your flop bet is too small.

As played I think I raise turn big and plan to gii. 68s is the only reasonable straight. All others are gutters with no front door FDs to make them a more likely flop call. BB is always marginal just flatting turn and SB donking small is still probably behind us. We still get value from 2 pair, SDs, combo draws. Worst case we have 10 outs.

Flop bet is way, way too small. Ugh. Hate it vs. guys like this -- get some value and make them pay to chase.

As played, I just call the turn and evaluate river. If we were shallower I'd raise/gii.

id bet flop bigger to like 50-60 because overpairs and 7x arent folding that bet, but hands like 96 and A3 probably will.

as played call

I would bet flop 2/3. As played seems like a straight forward call.

I'd go $50 on flop for value, charging the draws, narrow the field.

OTT - I like a raise/call ($165ish) with the SB in, otherwise might just call vs BB HU. BDFD comes in, and if behind, have outs on river.

More on flop, they either have a pair or a draw or they don't. They are not calling $25 with JTs but they will call $50 with any piece.

As played we have position, I think we can call and evaluate river. If the turn didn't hit both likely straight draws I think you can raise.

I agree with the others who prefer a larger flop bet.

On the river, I'd probably call a reasonable size bet, or bet around half pot if action gets checked to us.

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Raise

When do we find out what happened?

Back to the hand -

We could probably do with a larger raise size pre, given you had a UTG open-limper in front of you and three players left to act behind you.

Playing multi-way with opponents in front and behind, it's probably best to check most/all of our range on most/all flops, to see what everyone else does first. Depending on our hand and the board, we can check-raise over a bet from players behind, or make a delayed c-bet on the turn if it checks to us, or raise if an EP player leads out on a brick after action checks through.

If we do c-bet the flop it should be less frequently, but much bigger. We can do that here, because your hand is so strong, but also so unlikely to improve, and this board is pretty wet, given that there are four opponents and it's just a SRP. Someone's going to have 2P, bottom set, a middling pair, or some sort of draw, and we can target all those hands for value.

Depending on how splashy the table is, I could see betting $50 to full pot on the flop.

AP, after c-betting small and getting called by these two V's in the blinds, with the widest ranges, I probably just flat call turn, closing the action, hoping to boat up on the river, or planning to call a less-than-pot-sized bet on a non-diamond run-out.

The problem with raising turn is that our hand heavily blocks all the most likely 2P combos and 1P + a draw combos, it's unlikely either V would play 22 this way, they can't both have 22, and it's unlikely both V's are only on a flush draw. If either flopped 2P or bottom set, they would probably donk-lead or x/r flop. The only flop slow-play is 77.

There are 35 combos of worse value hands possible, assuming they're playing all of the worst suited garbage SC's OOP. If we take out all the X-deuce and 2-gapper combos, that number drops to 20, plus a few flush-draws that weren't strong enough to raise pre but are apparently strong enough to donk-lead turn.

That's probably not enough to make up for the fact that either of them could show up with any one of the 15 combos of 86s, 77, 63s, or A3s, and play it exactly this way. If they're playing A3o, fuggedaboutit.

We're most likely either losing to a slow-played 77, or a turned straight, or we're crushing whatever weak/weird $hlt they have that gets played like this. If we raise turn, we should probably just jam, but then they're probably folding everything worse, and snapping us off with everything better.

If either/both are on the flush draw, we'll know it if the river is a d and either of them blasts off.

Raise the turn for value