Tampa Hard Rock. 1/2 .....

HERO is in BB $500 stack.
Villain is 50 year old British guy in SB ($300 behind). Talking about Rugby and plays like he just read super systems. Waiting on big hands and betting like he is on high stakes poker.

Straddle ($4) on button. SB Villain raises to $30 HERO calls with 22.

All others fold. Heads up to the flop

Flop 2 2 3 Two hearts ($64)

Villain bets $50.

I am inclined to call here a good percentage of the time but if he has 88-QQ, there are a good enough amount of scare cards that slows him down. I decided to raise to $125.
Villain calls.

Turn King c.

Villain checks.
(High hand is already going to 4 jacks, so not in consideration of the play here)

HERO ????

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I actually love the raise. I think it looks like an over pair like 66-1010, or like you think he has AK or a hand like that and he is just c betting and you are trying to steal it because you think he missed. I think a flat makes your hand look stronger there. On the turn, I think I check and keep with the story of the small over pair or bluff. I think this will get him to bet the river whether he leads out or you bet on the river and he calls. IMO I think if you bet the turn, then he has to at least start worrying you hold a 2, I think a check makes it seem like you don't and itll make him feel better about his hand.

Flop pre.

Flop raise is good.

Shove turn.

I would throw out some weak fish type bet, showing weakness but appearing to want to chase out flush draws, smaller than the flop bet, maybe 85-90. Hopefully he raises, he should be calling with absolutely anything if he called on the flop. Hopefully some heart/boat hits him on the river or he spazzes out and bluffs.

Why?

Why?

This is a lot of hoping when we have the nuts.

The King does hit some of his range but it kills action for most of his overpairs on the flop.

I thought that unless he has KK, this is a terrible card for HERO to make money from.

I thought it was a pretty clear check.

I tend to agree with this line of thinking, Villains ranges is likely an over pair 88-AA, or two large suited cards after the action on the flop AKs or AQs. most of Villains holdings probably did not like that card, perhaps with the exception of KK, AA, or AKs.

I say check and let villain have the free card. You give villain a chance to continue with a second best hand on the river.

I see some merit with the very small fish type bet if you believe villain is capable of coming over the top.

Fold pre because getting only 10-1 set mining odds w/ 7 ppl to act behind won't be profitable.

Shove turn(or maybe small bet is better) for the same reasons to raise the flop.

I want three streets of value, and the bigger you get the pot, the more likely villain is to bluff into it.

If villain has a king, a weak bet will likely get raised, or allows us to get bigger calls on the river. If he has a pocket pair that is scared of kings, what good does checking do? We are hoping he hits a two outer boat?

A weak bet looks like we are betting with a worse pocket pair or continuing with an ace, maybe betting a flush draw.

Give him great pot odds to call for his flush draw or to see if his pocket pair are good. If we are lucky he has Khxh and he bombs a heart on the river.

I wouldn't check if I put him on a pocket pair. Too many scary river cards, doesn't sound like from the description he will bluff flushes if he isn't on them.

I am curious what we expect villain to call with if we shove the turn? Are we expecting villain to call with anything less than top pair?

The small bet is alright since it lets him continue wider, or may encourage him to come over the top.

This is a snap fold pre-flop.

1. If someone 3-bets, then you just lit $30 on fire.

2. You are not deep enough to set mine. When you put $30 into the pot with 22, then you need to be able to get back a minimum of $300 from your $30 investment every time you flop a set. It's not going to happen. You should not be set-mining unless you are getting at least 15:1 odds.

Bad play preflop - you can't call $40 and win money in the long term.

I absolutely live the raise on the flop - that's how you get a chance at maximizing profits. He calls your raise which leaves him $140 behind.

King may not be a good card for him but you have to get turn IMO so I bet $65 here so that if he calls he's committed to river and there is a good chance he'll raise you allin.

How are you going to get all-in if you check the turn?

By calling/raising [or] betting the river depending on what V does.

Pretty standard fold pre flop given stack sizes.

Raise flop to $145.
Shove all turn cards for $125.
Easy game.

Grunch:

Absent reads on the rest of the table, pre is bad. We aren't getting proper IO to hit our hand and we're in bad relative position if there are other callers post. OTF, given your read I'm ripping it in. He's got an overpair and I don't want a card to kill my action.

AP, check and hope he makes a 2nd best hand. He's got JJ-QQ a lot here based on the action.

the call pre is poor.

Flop is great, he has pocket pairs a good amount of the time, and when he doesn't he's likely to slow down on the turn unless he binks.

Turn I probably lead out with the logic that someone afraid of the king isn't going to bet the river anyway.

His hand smells a lot like JJ-QQ.

I disagree. If we check back here, it looks like we're scared of the K with a hand like 99-JJ. Depending on the river, we may get looked up by 99-QQ or villain may value bet the river for us, thinking he could push us off a hand by repping the king.