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08-15-2010 , 01:12 AM
live 5/5 blinds 200-500max buy in game

what is best line here?

effective stacks 800

UTG opens for $15
x3 callers (MP)
hero calls $10 in BB 9T

flop

678

pot $80

hero has nuts leads out for $65
UTG folds
short stack in MP with about $200 flat calls $65
reg last to act has me covered tanks for 4 seconds and flats $65

Turn 4

pot $275

Hero bets out $250 (wanted to build pot vs 5x and to many bad rivers for my hand any any 8,7,6,4 still had $470 behind also not grauntee they will put money in pot if i check)

short stack calls all in for his remaining $135

reg last to act tanks for about 1 minute in pain and folds top set of 88 face up


did i play this wrong?
no matter what i do on turn i dont get paid off on river i think like if he has a set and river is lets say K and i lead out i think he still folds his set.

i got berated at table after telling me to bet small on turn but i dont think it matters if i bet small his draws and only puts more money in if he hits so i decided to try get max value from 5 or a 9 high straight.


what you guys think ?

Last edited by metski; 08-15-2010 at 01:25 AM.
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08-15-2010 , 01:51 AM
V was an idiot to fold the 888 unless his image is so bad he knows he cant win a dime if board pairs.

4 was unfortunate, nothing you did really would change it. Bet 200, bet 250, whatever.
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08-15-2010 , 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
V was an idiot to fold the 888 unless his image is so bad he knows he cant win a dime if board pairs.

4 was unfortunate, nothing you did really would change it. Bet 200, bet 250, whatever.
villains image was very very nitty never seen him put a chip in middle without having nuts.

my image was tight but i have shown bluff raises and 3bets with air.

also lost last 2 pots before this hand but wasnt acting tilted
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08-15-2010 , 08:19 AM
bump ^^
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08-15-2010 , 10:00 AM
I probably check raise the flop to represent a big draw but leading out is fine.

We can't check raise the turn. If it checks around it could be disastrous.

But I bet 180 into 275 on the turn to make two pair, sets and monster draws think they have fold equity (I don't mind them coming over the top).
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08-15-2010 , 10:20 AM
very possible he has 910 I feel a smaller bet is reasonable here. He definitely feels he has the nuts, and he's splitting the pot with a possibility of hitting the river with a
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08-15-2010 , 10:43 AM
If you check the turn MAYBE villian fires out to try and protect his set and you can come over the top but the way you played it is fine too.
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08-15-2010 , 05:44 PM
no way i put Vil on set here after flop action, maybe 2 pair.

OP played it fine maybe bit 200 if anything but it seemed like V was going to fold to any big raise here unless he boated u obv.
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08-15-2010 , 06:58 PM
u played it fine imo
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08-15-2010 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Redsaddict
If you check the turn MAYBE villian fires out to try and protect his set and you can come over the top but the way you played it is fine too.
i tanked for a bit on turn considering CRAI

but the reg and even the short stack were the most passive players on the table.
to give you idea how passive the shorty was.. he showed down 92
appreciate replies (:

when games get 250BB+ plus i get unconfortable game gets tricky :*(

Last edited by metski; 08-15-2010 at 09:54 PM.
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08-15-2010 , 11:21 PM
Too much on turn IMO...I like the flop lead...terrible turn card for you in terms of getting action.
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08-16-2010 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bwslim69
Too much on turn IMO...I like the flop lead...terrible turn card for you in terms of getting action.
whats a good turn bet amount?

what are we trying to get calls from?

this may sound ******ed but

i didnt want to bet small since yes i get extra lets say $150 in middle from him but he will have ALOT of equity in pot so at times i only win 65% of pot.

so i decided to bet alot and hoped he would still call with his sets trying to fill out even though he does not have odds.

remember its live to some people it just looks like alot of chips in middle and it only costs him 2 black chips more to win a big stack of chips and possibly my remaining chips.

i think any amount i bet here looks like a straight its just do we want to give him correct odds to draw to a boat or flush?

we win pot majority of the time but dont we win more money longer term by bettnig more we take down a decent sized pot and some % he calls with horrible odds to try fill up
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