Background: 1/3/5 (straddle) Effective stacks are $375
Prior hand hero limps on button with 64os after 4 limpers, Villian raises to $15 from SB and everyone calls.
Flop A 6 4 rainbow
Villian leads for $100, one limper calls, I shove for $360 and get called by Villian and limper.
Turn 5
River A
Villian has 23s
Limper has 57os


OTTH
3 limpers, I limp the SB with T9os (no heart)
Villian raises to $15 and everyone calls

Flop Q T 9 all hearts

Whats our plan against this maniac?

With this aggrotard to our immediate left, we have to be very careful of limping in too many hands because he is simply going to raise too often. Obviously a perfect candidate to limp/reraise our bigger hands with.

So due to the straddle being on (charging us way more to complete), the aggrotard raising a lot, not playing particularly deep, and being OOP postflop, I think this should be a fold the first time around. Even calling the second time around (admittedly closing the action) is very meh due to the same reasons.

I'd probably check/shove the flop. Our hand is actually fairly mediocre on this board but I just don't see how we can do anything other than go with it now that we're here in an SPR ~5 flop, especially given the huge action people are willing to give given the history hand. Board is dynamic enough where someone is likely to take a shot at it. If a bunch of people other than the aggrotard go hog wild on the flop I could perhaps get behind a hero fold too.

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Prior hand fold pre twice. It's spew.

This hand is meh, knowing I'm probably going to get raised in SB I think fold pre is best. Once raised, I'm not thrilled about calling another 2bb in nut worst spot 75bb deep with this hand, I would fold this.

Post flop I x/c flop, call/GII brick turn, ensure we get it in at some point if we manage to boat up.

why are you limping with 64os (and call a raise with it) but that's a story for another thread.

I don't see anything in the history showing villains a maniac. Calling with 23s and going crazy post flop with an OESD is standard for recs.

My plan post flop with 5 players, a monitone flop and being OOP with bottom two is I'm c/c'ing a reasonable bet and getting ready to fold to further action and another heart. Leading out and getting raised would suck. c/r'ing would also suck if we would have to fold to a re-raise.

He had a gutshot, not an OESD

ok sorry I misread the board, but it's not that different in they're eyes they play to hit cards

He isoed with 32s in the BB

OP you need to tighten way up with your preflop hand selection given the maniac at the table. Both hands should be folded preflop regardless, but especially with a maniac at the table who is raising every hand.

AP, obviously check and let him blast off with whatever and raise all in when it gets back around to you.

You actually have an ideal seat to the right of the maniac. If he’s really raising almost every hand you should start limping all your playable range of hands, including 88+,AJ+, KQ etc, and putting in the squeeze jam with all of those hands at the top of your range.

Sorry, did not notice the flop is monotone. Would not recommend to follow my advice above.

My amended advice:
Start with a check.Definitely don’t lead, that would be bad given villain profile and your poor position and relatively weak hand — bottom two isn’t very strong 4ways on this board. If you lead you’ll end up overrepresenting your hand strength and get folds from all worse hands.
If maniac V pots it and nobody else calls, I would just call. If a neutral turn rolls off, check, and if he bets again then raise all in. If a bad turn rolls off (mainly a heart), you can check/fold. If he doesn’t bet turn and a safe river rolls off, I might check to give him a second opportunity to bluff.
If V pots it and another player calls we need to be fairly worried about our hand. We probably have to continue but I’m not loving it. Bottom two is not a very strong hand on this board, sorry to say.

The way I look at this spot is: there are a bunch of hands that have us crushed/drawing nearly dead: QT,Q9,KJ,J8,any flush. There is a wider variety of hands that we’re roughly flipping with on the flop, like: JT, QJ, J9, or Qx/Jx/Tx/9x (one heart).

So: if we commit on the flop we’ll be in bad shape.

Rather:

WAIT for a safe turn card to roll off. (If a bad turn rolls off we can let go of the hand and save some $$)

CHECK and let your opponent make a mistake by betting again with all of his hands that are now in poor shape with just one card to come.

ALL-IN to crush his soul.

My plan was just to give him rope to hang himself

X/C $30 flop

Turn - 6s

X/C $55 turn

River - 2h

X/fold $300 bet

He showed Ah 9c



I was folded most of my sb and bb mediocre hands.
Completing medium suited and unsuited connectors and small-medium pairs from the blinds knowing that if I connect, I can double up

Like the flop line, but you should have check-raised turn all-in. It would have been a pot-sized raise and he likely would have called in bad shape.

T9o is a mediocre hand. You can play it from the BTN but I wouldn’t play it from OOP like you did. T9s is fine to play as a complete in the SB/BB.

If you want to follow the 15-25-35 rule for preflop IO, you want effective stacks to be 15x the size of the raise for set-mining with small pps, 25x for suited connectors, and 35x for suited-gappers/offsuit connectors. So you’d need 35*$15=$525 in stack depth to justify committed $15 preflop with your hand.

He had a suited connector, that's how recreational players play, they're not playing the same ranges as us. I don't see that as being a maniac.

After this guy bets the flop and no one else gets involved, I'd fastplay (likely check/raising the flop although I could get behind a wait-for-safe-turn to check/raise if we're positive he's betting). Dude got in 120 bb in the previous hand with the monster known as a gutshot so there is no reason to slowplay here, especially when half the deck sucks.

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This isn't a spot that we try to get max value. It's a spot where we try to get to showdown