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Originally Posted by jvds
Could you pls provide some sort of chart of which hands are/aren’t calling hands pre? Sounds like you have some sort of system that could be represented visually…
If we're heads up vs an initial raiser, we should of course be calling pocket pairs as long as we have enough setmining odds, and raising everything else instead of flatting to see a flop, unless his range is very narrow either due to his position or read on the player.
Our 3bet range changes from player to player, which is why we shouldn't use charts. There are too many variables in these decisions than to say "the chart says raise/call/whatever". Our 3betting range is also different depending on how often the player flats 3bets, or does he only 4b/f to them, etc. The more they flat pre to see flops, and fold to further action (fit or fold players) the lighter I'm gonna 3bet them, assuming their raising range is at least standard for their position.
Here are good 3betting hands vs a pfr
All premuims
AJ
AT
AQ
KQ
KJ
KT
When they seem to fold a lot to 3bets, or even flat them fold otf, you can go alil lighter to hands like
K9s
QJ
A9
A8
A6s, A7s, A8s, A9s
OTOH, if you have a multiway hand (any pocket pair, suited ace, suited broadways, SC's, or gappers, which play good in multiway pots, which are hands than can make the nuts and get paid off with), you should be flatting pre as long as there are at least 4 other players in the hand, (or sometimes 3 if they're bad players).
The main point is whenever someone raises pre, the first thing that you should think about is their range by taking into consideration their position and your read on the player, as well as how they respond to pressure both pre and post, when deciding what to do with hands like KJ.