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Originally Posted by blargh257
I take it it's not good to call and see if you overpair, then?
Take a look at the first section of text in this article on Bart Hansen's blog, about the stack depths needed to call a pre flop raise, based on our holdings.
https://crushlivepoker.com/articles/clp-list-of-terms
To understand this logically, if we raise with TT, and our opponent 3Bs, and we just flat call, our reasoning for not 4B'ing is that V is usually only going to call with better, rarely worse. V might have JJ+. When we just call, we're capping our range, effectively saying we don't have AA, KK, AK, etc.
At this point, TT becomes just like any other low or middling pocket pair, in the sense that we're just calling in the hopes of improving to a set or better. Otherwise, we're probably not going to continue with the hand. This is called set mining, and we need 15x the raise size to do it profitably.
So, while having an over-pair to the board is nice, it really doesn't change much. We might say, well, V might have been 3B'ing a worse hand, but it doesn't really matter when we just call pre. Say V 3B two overs, or a lower pair. We're still losing when V flops a bigger pair or a set, if we weren't already beat pre flop.
We might continue with TT on low or middling boards that favor our range, and if we pick up a draw to go with our pair, but now we're basically turning our hand into a bluff catcher, or a bluff candidate, depending on whether we're calling or betting/raising.
But this is all prompted by the question of whether or not hero should flat call pre. The quick and easy way to know is to simply see if we're at least 15x the raise size (incremental difference, the additional amowe would have to call, not the total bet size) in remaining stack depth. If we're 15x deep, we can profitably set mine.
Otherwise, if we're not strong enough to re-raise, we should probably fold, especially when OOP. And the more shallow the stacks, the lower the SPR, the more it becomes a jam or fold decision, and the higher up in our range we should be when we jam.
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