hey guys I recently moved from 1/2 to 2/5 and had a really tough time this week by lost $2500. I have a poker bankroll but this is still a lot of money for me. I don't know what to do, maybe some help from you guys. Or if any pro can tell me this also happens.
Basically what happened was I barely make any hand(two pair+) in 4 sessions(6-10hours for each), and every single hand I have a overpair I got crushed. Few hand examples:
1, hero(400) looked down KK in Lp, utg+1 raised to 25, 4 callers, hero reraised to 125, utg +2 call, a gambler in MP(good LAG, every time I saw him he walked away from room with 4+ buyins).
Pot 400+ , flop 6 8 2, checked to hero who went allin for 275, MP called and showed 68s for two pairs.
2, hero(400) got AA first hand I sat down, raised to 20 in cutoff. Two callers including a main villain who I will mention later.
Flop k 3 4 r, pot 60, hero bet 50. Both called. Turn 2, hero bet 100(maybe mistake here), both called. River 10, hero went allin for 230. MP snap called and showed me k 10 for two pairs on the river.
Main villain in this hand is an annoying black gambler. He always got luck against me in the whole week and I lost perhaps totally $2000+ to him.
Hand 3,4,5,6 etc. I was going to write are all heads up agains this V and needless to say he sucked out on me every hand. Basically the stories are all about overpair being crushed right on the turn. I saw him bluff other player stupidly. At the end I wanted to try hero call him down in some momentum board and turned out he always have a real Hand against me.
Other money I lost perhaps are all stories like can't refuse to see flop with hands like 67s, 78s, T9s, JTo-KQo for raises of 25-30 in a multiway pot.and hit nothing or chased to the end on draws and never hit in the end.
I don't know if I should quit poker or what because it really sucks every night I drive home after lost all my buyins. Is there anyone here that ran so bad as me and make it back? Is there any change I should adjust my strategy? Appreciate your help.
Edit: sorry if it seems This post is about complaining bad beat. It isn't, I really want to hear how good players here adjust their mind to such loss(I heard ppl telling me quit poker because only lucky players win etc.) and is things like calling JTo, 67s in multiway pot profitable and how should I adjust my bet sizing etc.?

Posts like this one is a pretty strong indication that your mental game is very weak.

People that have the needs to share bad-beat stories are often prone to tilts and subscribe to ideas of "luck."

Poker is not a game for the weak minded.

Simple answer is that you probably shouldn't play 2/5 in the near future.

Embrace the variance! You played hand 1 perfectly, MP hitted a miracle flop and you stack off correctly in such low SPR.

Hand 2, maybe you can bet 150 on the turn but again if V is going to call with Kx, he is going to call with Kx, there is nothing you could do.

Don't just quit because of a bad week, if you feel uncomfortable playing 2/5, drop back to 1/2, regain your confidence and recover your bankroll then try again. GL

It would be better for you game if your downswings motivated you to work on your leaks rather than complaining about bad beats. It certainly sounds like you have them. No one cares that you got drawn out on, and even if we did, there's nothing useful anyone could do for you about it. Post more about calling raises with JTo and maybe we can have a constructive conversation.

Losing 2500 at 2/5 in a week isn't close to the worse you will ever run.

Bad beats happens. Then you play worse and then you think you get more bad beats but really not realizing that they are out playing you or the math is on there side. So you telt more and think they are all sucking out on you. Take a week or two off go back to 1-2 rebuild both bank roll and confidence.

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true that, try taking time off and reading about the game. Try "The Mental Game of Poker" by Jared Tendler, I started reading it recently and it has helped me improve so many aspects of my game. Maybe it could help you too. There's such thing as being a "mental game fish" which could be an issue for you.

How much is a regular downswing can ever be?

As much as it needs to be until you hit the upswing.

A lot of factors including BI amount, your skill, your style of play, opponents skill, etc.


I've definitely had DAYS where I've been down 2500+ at 2/5 and 5/5. A pretty bad downswing at that level is probably approaching 10k.

Life time if you're a losing player.

Ok I don't understand why would you say that. I'm a losing player and I'm asking for help from player like you who has 10000+ post here. If you don't want to help please just close the post instead.

You're not asking for help though; you're looking for sympathy and people to tell you things to make you feel better.

I guess that is looking for help...

But this isn't the right forum to look for that kind of support.

If you want to discuss strategy, sure, post them here.

And didn't I kind of just reaffirm the notion that you have a weak mental game? I pretty much just tilted you by pointing out cold-hearted facts.

If you can't even handle them on a forum, how could you handle beats that lose you money?

Read my post again plz, there is strategy question

Know two solid, winning 2/5 regs at MDL, who had profits in the mid to high 5 figures for 2014. They both have had close to 10k downswings.

Just another day at the office.

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No it didn't tilt me not even now, I was looking for the mental game book after you and other bros mentioned that.

Bud, there isn't a strategy question in your OP.

Read the stickies before posting.

If you've not experienced a 5 BI downswing in one week then you have not played much poker, or you've ran like god for the duration of your playing life and are about to reap the cold hard variance.

If you think you need a break then take a break

If downswings affect you, drop down to 1/3 or improve your BR management till they don't affect you

Don't play big pots against annoying black gamblers,stick to modest polite conservative Asian lady.

I call him annoying because he is known for trash talkings in local casino for years. A lot of ppl hate him.

the standard deviation for 2-5 no limit is $300/hour. Assume you played 40 hours in the week, 300 x sqroot 40 = $1860. so -$2500 is just a little over one standard deviation downswing. nothing unusual at all. don't let it effect your phsycic.

Cliffs: Work on mental game, drop down in stakes to where 5 BI swings don't bother you, make peace with variance, work on leaks. 5 BI downswings are normal and far from the worst that pros experience. It might also benefit you to start a new thread or two where you post one of these hands:

My guess is there are some leaks to be found in there. Hands 1 and 2 look fine.