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V MAAG -$375. Have seen him dust off 2 stacks in 45 min calling down w/ TPTK type hands. Have seen him limp/call about 60% of the hands, including 75o from early position. Haven’t seen any aggression though.

H MAWG covers. Playing really right in 45 minutes game has been open.

OTTH
V limps EP, H goes $15 MP w/ QsQh, LP calls, V calls

Flop ($44)
8s9sQc

X, H $15, f, V calls.

Turn ($74)
8s9sQc Ks

Not a great turn but not enough to stop a bet. V x, H $35, V call.

River ($154)
8s9sQc Ks 2d

That’s a good river.
V x, H $65, V fairly quickly c/r AI for like ~$200 more.

H? Am I just too high here to fold? V having almost ATC surely hurts me here, correct?

i dont think you have a 3 street hand here. i probably check turn because what worse hands call that didnt raise the flop?

why are you getting so small on the flop? i’m hammering this for $35-45.

i think too small everywhere but id bf now

i think checking turn would be a very large error vs described villain

I would bet very big on the turn. 100 min.

I would never fold to a guy who can have every two pair combo on the board and a rivered set.

Just an auto-pilot range bet….

I limp in preflop but whatever.

SPR is 8 and we has top set, and so even though it ain't the nuts, I'm willing to start attempting to go broke with it. So I PSB the flop. Really dislike our sizing on a drawy board especially against a guy trying his hardest to give all his money away, I think we're losing huge value here. Plus it will actually make it difficult to play for stacks on later streets (our goal) without massively overbetting for large $$$.

I would probably lean to checking back the turn. The main draw got there and with this other overcard it will be difficult to get two more streets of value from weak pears. Would also suck to get check/raised and blown off our fullhouse draw.

Think I'm ok with the river value bet as played (as I'm assuming we would have heard from the flush by a turn check/raise or river donk). Super gross spot facing the raise, but against someone attempting to give all his money away I think we're probably forced to make a crying call here.

GcluelessNLnoobG

This. The small bet was almost horrible.

You should bet for value on a flop instead of offering cheap cards that felt you, bet bigger and if you get raised, just gii there. Stacks are only around 100 bb's.

As played, I doubt he checks the river with a flush after you bet small twice so I would just call it off.

This is not a flop you should range bet. I would not range bet much or cbet small live. If you bet a wet flop like this, bet biggish.

Turn is probably a check. Beat by flush and straight. Someone may have called with a flush draw.

Raise bigger pre, with a V like this guy limping in so much.

Bet bigger on flop. Not very many turn cards you're going to like. I'd bet at least 2/3 pot, maybe even full pot, or possibly a little over pot.

If we bet bigger on flop and get called, the turn is a check back. As played, with the small flop bet, I think we need to bet 2/3 pot on turn.

Assuming V calls a 2/3 pot bet on turn, I think the river is just a check-back. As played on prior streets, with these smaller bet sizes, I think I just jam river when V checks, given the stack sizes.

After taking the smaller sizing on every street, and V x/r jamming, I could go either way, but I lean towards a call. I don't know how we can fold QQ here.

I'd think JT would probably raise flop. A flush would probably raise turn. JT probably isn't x/r jamming river. This line is so polar. It's the nuts or nothing, and the nuts probably aren't check-calling turn and checking again on the river, risking hero checking-back.

As described, V could have AQo, K9, 22, AJ, AT, A9, A8, J9, JT, J8...you get the idea. He could actually be jamming for value with a worse hand.

"Don't fold sets." - Doug Polk, @WCGRider

you cant really range bet multiway even more so if you're oop

He's got enough 2 pairs there to call.

So the consensus is that I suck? I can get behind that.

Results: H folds fairly easily assuming V really is on c/r’ing river with an ‘any 2 spades’ flush. V shows KTo and I’m pretty sure he thought it was a value raise on river. H is a fish.

Yeah, obviously make a note that probably shouldn't be folding anything against a guy who we described as "dusting off".

Glol@hisholding/hisplay,wow,trulyaspecialplayerG

I think people were referring to your bet sizing, not you in particular (we have a great value hand otf, and we don't often (if ever) flop top sets or big hands so when we do we should drain the villain for as much value as we possibly can).
He probably thought your hand was weak because you were betting small. FWIW, there are hundreds of players I know that I would fold the river to, but not against him as he was described.

flop top set. only get 43 BB’s in the middle on a soaking wet board. fold the best hand. ouch.

Oh I felted V about an hour later based on what I learned from this hand. Lost the battle, but won the war.

Yeah, the behind the story story is that I’d been running the **** for a couple of weeks and every V hit every crazy draw and that probably affected me on this hand. Need to get better about that.

idk. i think the fold is ok. i don't see much from the villain description to suggest you should have anticipated this. i do think you should bet bigger in general (in which case you likely end up commited) if you think he is "dusting off stacks" via calling down with weak hands.