The table: 1/2$ NLHE, Sunday afternoon, full ring, almost all players have 200$. Its been a loose and decently passive table. It started about 3 hours ago as a new table and I think everyone except one started with full 100BB stacks.

Hero: 500$, mid 20s, white, reg. Running pretty well on the session. On the first orbit I opened to 15$ with QQ and flopped a set heads up. V check called 20, led turn and folded to turn raise when a bad turn card came. Then, about 45 min into the session I called an 8$ open from an EP raiser, while I was in the cutoff with AQo, button calls, SB makes it 20$, we all call. Flop is AQX, I lead 50$, button shoves, all else fold. My hand holds. These are the two hands hero has shown down.

SB: 95$, mid 40s, black gentleman, very talkative and chatty, in a great mood, super loose, not very aggro though. I have played with him before and he is a def mark at the table. I think he sat with 100$ and has added about 120$ in multiples of 40$ a few times. He has called raises from OOP with garbage, K2 and J2, just to get it in with two pair, when super wet boards. Neither have held up.

Button: 300$, mid 40s middle eastern gentleman, sat with 200$. The only hand I remember him playing is against hero. I opened to 15 UTG with JhJx, he calls from button, heads up on a 10hXhXx board. I lead 20. Turn is small brick and I bet 45, he calls. River flush does not come in, but it is a Q. I check and he instantly turns over KhQh...i never show, though.

The Hand:
UTG raises to 10$, 3 callers, button calls, SB calls, hero calls with 4d4s.

The Flop: 6d6s3d (70$)
Checks to UTG who bets 10$. Every single player calls. Hero decides to call for the following reasons...

I feel like in this spot, with 7 active players, at least one has to have a 6, and at atleast one has to have a decent FD. Optimally, both 6’s are out there and at least one FD. If hero hits a 4 and fills up, we are getting paid....ESPECIALLY if flush comes in.

The Turn: 6d6s3d4s (140$)
SB now leads for 35$....
Hero?!?!?

I honestly don’t even remember the other players in the pot besides V’s listed above...this was a long session and I table changed a handful of times...

What makes us the most money here? Raising scares out all FD’s most likely, and hell, may even scare out small 6’s. Since we are already made (assuming V doesn’t have 64) we don’t want to give a V behind the right price to draw to filling up. I’m torn between a raise and call...

I'm raising to about $100 here. I like to build a pot with big hands especially in multiway pots where your multiple big hands are possible. SB likely has 5/7 and you also want action from random 6x hands. By raising, you may also get one of these 6x hands to shove on you and hopefull you will a huge cooler pot. Bottom line, there is no reason to slowplay in 1/2 games and especially in mutliway pots with this board texture.

I min-raise, which I almost never do. I'm never folding, and I want a 6 or 57 or A2 or draw to come along. If someone gets there, it sucks, but there are only so many hands that can get there. Does anyone else have more than $300?

I flat and try to bring along more players. SB only started w 50bb so raise and losing other action isn't a good play imo

Related question:
If a 5, 7, or ace comes on the river, do any of your guys slow down, especially if facing action because:
People are most likely to be playing suited ace or connectors preflop. If we assume that at least one person has a 6, do we think about what their kicker might be (and if it's on the board)?

Also lets not discount that someone could have an overpair and we don't want them to fill up on the river.

I am always raising here I think, protect your hand a little bit, dont get in a gross spot when a 3, a, 5, 7 or comes and you kinda get stuck. Not to mention any 6s arent gonna pay you off on the river if the 4 straight comes, so try to get as much out of them now.

Probably making it $100 total.

Idk I think raisin now is best, we need to get value against the likely better full house draws. Raise something funky like 85 and hope for another shove from someone who's scared of getting out drawn on. If we flat we are giving others way to good a price to out draw us.

I raise to 105, fds should still come along, any 6x will almost certainly call.

hahahahahaa

seriously?

we have probably 90% equity 7 way and you guys want to raise to shut out the remaining 5 players left to act?

please, all flush draws, all straight draws, all overpairs, all overcards in the 5 hands behind me put your money in the pot. i'll even let you run it three times.

oh no, if the river comes a 3 or a 6 god forbid we have to fold.

raise to protect our hand against an overpair drawing to full house......

You can't set the odds here. If you bet the most you can (shove), everyone else could still conceivably call, giving someone the right price to draw to a FH (hard to say exactly without all relevant stack sizes). It's a moot point, you want every single draw in there, at whatever price. If someone behind you is getting the right price to call for a 10%er, remember, there are 1-4 other players paying you both well for your efforts.

but wait you guys aren't counting the clear straightflush draw here. gotta charge those fish. ... all joking aside

flat is insanely good all the people dawing dead still come along and im sure that strong 6x is probably going to do their "raise to protect" They just can't fold trips ever and all the draws are live vs trips. like someone has a6 here, I practically guarantee it one of these 9 players has exactly a6 and will be shipping turn.
so very likely there will another overcall or two and then someone ships or something and it comes back to you after more people call the ships b/c "lolbigpot" potodds.

someone can easily have 33 here as well or 56, the reality is if you get coolered you get coolered like theres any bet you could make to fold out those hands anyways they are just never folding. might as well bring along the complete ******s still chasing bare draws. I mean a 3 could come on the river then were cooked to quads better price it out.

Bringing them along is why I like the min-raise. Gets a little more in the pot and looks like a weak 6 protecting or "seeing where it's at." It's still only a half-pot bet (if anyone is paying attention). I don't want anyone to fold, but I do want as much money in the pot as possible.

nahhh even fish invented minraising with the nuts, right now they are kind of oblivious and its the pfr betting so they aren't scared but minraise from utg with 7 players behind. Umm yea I'm not taking the chance that we give some fish total mubs here with that line and if we just come along like everyone else they continue all day. Keep your hand looking like the rest of theirs by calling him. which is a straight or flush draw and just overcall. There is like absolutely no reason to raise. 90% of the time someone else behind you will anyways.

Meh I suppose you have a point but we are more like an 75% favorite and the pot is 140 on the turn and + 35 bet if we call the pot is 210 with 35 to call giving other Vs 7/1 on a call. So maybe raising isn't as bad as you say. Although having more dead money committed to the hand may out way this.

My point is you need to think of all the variables and not just look to insult everyone. We are giving our Vs with equity pretty good odds to try and improve while those that are dead are just donating at this point.

I'm calling going to get a bunch of 35$ callers.

Agreed, it's not an unlikely scenario given that it's a multi-way pot. Also if people are unlikely to fold anyways why not make them pay more?

Most likely their draw will brick on the river, so better to get more money in now. Also they'll never think that you will raise with a full house there, and will be more likely to call because then "they can get paid with your 6 when they hit" (I've raised fh against known draws so many times and they always call because they think you'll slow play a fh, it's fishy 1/2 thinking so we should take advantage of it)

If the flush draw or straight draw comes in, we arent getting paid off by a 6x anymore. Why not get money in right now, if your sitting there with a 6x, that board is so unassuming, really tough to fold.

Take value now.

No need to slowplay in these games, people will call.

Hero calls 35$, hoping 2-3 players stick around. Lets assume we are up against one V with a 6 and two others with SD or FD. We don't care out the SD or FD, but the V with a 6 most likely has 65, 67, A6...right? We don't like a 4,5,6,A or even a 3 otr. This gives V 12 outs to Hit.
I never thought about this during he hand, but for this reason, I like raising. Any V with a 6 may think "great, he is raising out the draws I'm scared of...I'll come right along hahah!"

Hero calls 35$, and it folds to button who calls.
River is a black 8. SB leads for 60$, (he actually started with about 125, not 95$), leaving himself about 10$ behind. What do we make of this?
Are we debating just calling to get button to call as well? Do we ever fold if button raises? Are we confident to raise with button behind? What sidings?

Thank you everyone for actually imputing reasoning instead of just pretending like everyone is an idiot for raising. The most optimal line is obviously debatable and I've already stated what I thought was correct.

Results yet?

Oh hmm never folding this hand.

I'd min raise the turn for value , any 6, and flush draws for sure are coming, plus some other ******ed stuff. Also, pretty sure the last 4 is a good card for us.

Call the river, if button raises, call a shove or shove yourself.

Just shove