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03-02-2013 , 02:09 PM

#276

Richard Parker

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Just think of Rocky IV, you want to build his spirit high!

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03-02-2013 , 02:28 PM

#277

iLikeCaliDonks

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,154

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker

Be honest, what percentage of your live experience has been 100bb+?

100% of my winning sessions. So that's 60% of my sessions.

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03-02-2013 , 02:31 PM

#278

Richard Parker

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

100% of my winning sessions. So that's 60% of my sessions.

I am not talking about how much you have when you cash out in your winning sessions.

For those that aren't familiar with your background.

What is the main structure of games that you play in live setting?

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03-02-2013 , 02:31 PM

#279

Randal_Graves

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 10,183

60% of the time it works every time.

Just hit the bad beat jackpot and make us rich.

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03-02-2013 , 02:41 PM

#280

cAmmAndo

The Situation

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,729

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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves

60% of the time it works every time.

Just hit the bad beat jackpot and make us rich.

They do have a jackpot was this covered in staking agreement?

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03-02-2013 , 02:41 PM

#281

patchohare

The Situation

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I think if we get between 2k -3k he should buyin for 1k-1k-depends on top offs/whats left. He wants to play 200bb so he should.

If I'm only seeing~100 hands I don't want to have to build a stack before covering villains.

Also, how can you effectively manipulate board textures w/ less than 100bb's?

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03-02-2013 , 02:44 PM

#282

patchohare

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I don't know of any live reg that doesn't play deeper than 100bb almost always. Do you guys?

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03-02-2013 , 02:44 PM

#283

iLikeCaliDonks

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Would be so cool to hit the bbjp, splitting with everyone. My main focus is to win the forums the most money possible.

DickParker I'm a poker player, with tons of experience online and offline. As far as you, you choose to play the games you play. I'm stuck, because I'm comfortable and can't handle life rake. But 5$ blinds are my specialty, regardless of my buyin.

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03-02-2013 , 02:55 PM

#284

Richard Parker

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Originally Posted by patchohare

I don't know of any live reg that doesn't play deeper than 100bb almost always. Do you guys?

He played exclusively in Commerce's 40bb max BI 2/5 game.

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03-02-2013 , 02:58 PM

#285

Richard Parker

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

I don't have a problem with whatever you're buying in and I'll agree with whatever the forum wants.

However, you need to be honest. You play exclusively in the $200 max BI 2/5 game in Commerce and you have limited experience with anything above 100bb effective.

You also have a tendency to cash out when you're ahead to protect a win.

Anyway, I am not here to poop on the party, and this is much more about YOUR benefit than any of ours.

I want you to be comfortable and have the most chance to actually turn this thing into a real BR. If you insist on playing with more than 100bb, then go for it.

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03-02-2013 , 03:00 PM

#286

iLikeCaliDonks

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False, my main games are HG, and a indian casino. Commerce was when I first started.

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03-02-2013 , 03:01 PM

#287

Richard Parker

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Alright whatever man.

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker

Played some 20 - 60bb BI game last night, and shush, it's such a tough game structure to beat...

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

I'm going to go play that structure tomorrow. Its my main game. And you're right its tough to beat. Because 6 ss have a 100$.

I'm going to buyin for a 100$ and table hop untill I get 600 then I'm going to commerce for the 3-500 5/5 game.

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

Where the action is the buyins are short. The best buyins are at the bike where all the nits play. They have 2/3 $300 buyin and 5/5 3-1000$ buyin.

Commerce 1/2 $40buyin, 3/5 $200 buyin, but you can buyin for 60bbs after you lose a buyin.

My favorite spot is HG 3/5 $300 buyin. Lots of action and lots of tables. At the comm and HG. Every where else bunch of nits.

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03-02-2013 , 03:03 PM

#288

TAOxEaglex

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,583

Not quite sure why everyone keeps saying 100bb is too short. Where Im from, all the LLSNL games have max BI of 100-150bb. That's plenty of room to maneuver...

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03-02-2013 , 03:11 PM

#289

patchohare

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker

He played exclusively in Commerce's 40bb max BI 2/5 game.

I forgot California has those draconian caps, my bad.

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03-02-2013 , 04:06 PM

#290

joeydynamite

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 178

Is it too late to get a piece?

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03-02-2013 , 04:07 PM

#291

AcePlayerDeluxe

1st Gear Pinned

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 19,221

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Originally Posted by TAOxEaglex

From my recent experience, playing 200bb or deeper, with chip colors i wasn't used to, stakes i wasn't used to, and being surrounded by cameras and spotlights was EXTREMELY disorienting at first.

I suggest 100bb BI to start (always topped off, of course). Then after 2 or 3 orbits give him free reign to top off to the max (200bb).

I missed what everyone bought in for last night, but if I recall you were the shorty. What were the effective stacks last night?

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03-02-2013 , 04:08 PM

#292

AcePlayerDeluxe

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Originally Posted by joeydynamite

Is it too late to get a piece?

Nope. What do you want?

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03-02-2013 , 04:11 PM

#293

AcePlayerDeluxe

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Once all the money is collected and we know exactly what we are working with we will have a democratic vote on what the BI to the game will be. This way we aren't all throwing ideas back and forth and arguing. It really doesn't go anywhere and creates a bunch of distraction. We have a couple weeks to collect the funds so start thinking about what you want to see and we will put it up to a vote.

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03-02-2013 , 04:22 PM

#294

joeydynamite

centurion

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i'll do $20 pm me the paypal info. or i can send a money order

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03-02-2013 , 05:25 PM

#295

TAOxEaglex

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i planned to buy in for 60bb for the first three orbits and then increase to 100bb. Luckily, my triple up gpt me up to 200bb real early.

Only one other person bought in for 60bb other than me. Everyone else had 200bb.

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03-02-2013 , 05:38 PM

#296

Richard Parker

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Originally Posted by TAOxEaglex

Makes even more sense to buy in for 100bb or even 60bb.

Players simply don't adapt well when there is one or two short stackers in a table full of deep stacks.

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03-02-2013 , 06:36 PM

#297

ATsai

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I don't really believe short-stacking is that advantageous in a vacuum against a table of 200bb stacks. The players buying in for 200bb tend to be the better and more experienced players. They will probably pigeonhole you as a tight "scared money" player if you buy in for a short stack.

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03-02-2013 , 06:37 PM

#298

ATsai

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Imagine if TAO had bought infor more than 60bb. He would have made a lot more in he hand where he tripled up early.

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03-02-2013 , 06:39 PM

#299

ATsai

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I personally believe it is best to short-stack for an orbit just to see how the table is playing. Then add-on appropriately if there are bad players that you want to cover.