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Originally Posted by straddle_me
So I'm playing live at a casino and no one is ever folding pre flop (NL but feels like pot limit). Every flop has at least 4 players weather its SRP or 3b. I have TT in middle position and UG who has a wide range like everyone else opens. I 3b and 3 other people at least call. It feels like a losing play as any pp that isn't QQ+ is in a losing situation basically set mining. So do I start flatting pp's here? Seems like obvious yes but wanted to make sure. Am I ever folding pp's, sc's, or even KQo vs players that are "fun" players post flop that will make a lot of mistakes? I've read that tight is better live but folding TT vs super wide range doesn't seem like a profitable play.
Now that I have experience with both live and online (I used to play exclusively live), I can tell you that set mining live is FAR more profitable than set mining online. You should not think of it so pejoratively.
The question of whether 3betting TT is a losing play is, to me, moot. Whether it is +EV or -EV is immaterial compared to whether it is better than calling. In a live situation, I have a hard time believing it is. When you hit your set you will be in a multiway pot where someone is not only likely to have caught a piece of it, but also to pay off one or two bets that will be quite big relative to your preflop investment. Online this scenario is far more rare.
KQo is different. In my experience live, calling someone else's raise with KQo can be a lot of trouble, since the parts of your opponents' range that you're in good shape against will have limped, not raised.