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07-11-2014 , 04:31 PM
Live 2-5 game at local casino

villain is mid-40ish, plays very lose; limps in 40% to 50% preflop; then calls late position raise half of the time and folds the other half.
Two hands ago, saw him bluffing by donking the turn and donking again on river when the flush card hit the turn, got called down by top pair.

Hero has $1400 behind, villain covers.

UTG limps, UTG+1 calls $5, villain calls $5 on Hijack..
hero on button raises to $45 with K3(hope to take down the pot right here)
both blinds folds; UTG folds; UTG+1 calls $40; Villain calls $40;
Pot: ~$140, 3 players

FLOP: 463
UTG+1 checks; Villain checks; Hero bets $105
UTG+1 folds; Villain raises to $325 ...

Hero?

I put him on a very strong range here: set, two pair, strong draw with a pair, even made str8; the bottom of his range here is 77+ ... I'm not folding my hand, but not sure how to proceed from here ... keep in mind that we are about 300bb deep...

thoughts?
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07-11-2014 , 09:30 PM
In position, just call flop.

You may already realize this, but your raise preflop is not good. You are deep stacked on the button. You shouldn't be trying to waste your button by overbetting to steal small pots.
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07-11-2014 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by doni.wang
Live 2-5 game at local casino

villain is mid-40ish, plays very lose; limps in 40% to 50% preflop; then calls late position raise half of the time and folds the other half.
Two hands ago, saw him bluffing by donking the turn and donking again on river when the flush card hit the turn, got called down by top pair.

Hero has $1400 behind, villain covers.

UTG limps, UTG+1 calls $5, villain calls $5 on Hijack..
hero on button raises to $45 with K3(hope to take down the pot right here)
So, we risk $45 preflop to try to win $22 (before rake), knowing that just villain calls half the time?



Flop : I don't know if we need to bet quite this much. As played, call. Getting it in for our stack size would be very bad against his range. We can occasionally get a free card on certain turns, and if he's adamant against giving us free cards, our implied odds when we bink the flush will be amazing. The toughest hands to play will be when we turn 2pr or trips IMO.
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07-11-2014 , 11:29 PM
Pf is kinda bad...
On flop he prob just has an overpair and you are actually a favorite/flipping against most combos he has
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07-11-2014 , 11:35 PM
If im raising this hand pre, I'm def goin for it on this flop. As played I probably just ship hoping to maximize fe and if he calls with his AA/QQ hope you hit
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07-11-2014 , 11:58 PM
Is $45 a standard open? I don't mind being aggressive and stealing pots from position so long as you know that this is profitable at this table, but your open seems way too big. You should open smaller and then try to barrel players off their hands. Not steal PF pots. As played I call the raise and proceed very carefully.
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07-12-2014 , 01:35 AM
It's closer to a fold than a reraise but flatting is probably best on flop. Pre flop, raising is atrocious against multiple limpers at pretty much any table
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07-12-2014 , 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BuffaloHound
Is $45 a standard open? I don't mind being aggressive and stealing pots from position so long as you know that this is profitable at this table, but your open seems way too big. You should open smaller and then try to barrel players off their hands. Not steal PF pots. As played I call the raise and proceed very carefully.
$45 is often the best raise size with three limps at most tables, at least with non JJ+ hands. If we raise to $30 or so, we're being to play this hand against three or more villains almost always. But im folding K3s here pre all day
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07-12-2014 , 06:55 AM
I'll play K3 sooted from the button all day especially deep. However, I think it's a major leak to be raising huge with non-value hands. Generally a small raise will accomplish what we need and limping is profitable as well. The raise size isn't as bad because we are deep but imagine if we had a normal stack of $500 in front of us and then decided to make it $45 pre with K3.
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07-12-2014 , 09:08 AM
If getting one call is the most common result of the raise pre, it can't be that bad imo. You're not really expecting to take it down pre, you're setting yourself up to scoop up with a cbet most of the time.
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07-12-2014 , 09:43 AM
Its better as a squeeze out of the blinds, its not so great in this spot bc we already on the bu,we rarely get called by hands we dominate, and players in general are respecting button raises less and less these days as they should..
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07-14-2014 , 03:30 AM
thanks for all the good discussions...

Just for completeness of this thread:

Hero reraises to $700 (now i realize this is a huge mistake, should just flat, then proceed with caution...)
Villain pushes all-in
Hero calls

no heart

Villain shows 57o. a str8
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