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10-09-2008 , 07:23 AM
blind 1-3 full ring
max buy-in 600 (200bb)

The game started only an hr ago. Villian won a few nice pots and built his stack to 1000. I had around 700. He seem to be solid.

I raised with 9s10s at MP to 15, he called at SB, we went heads-up.

flop, AsQsJh (pot 33)

he checked to me and I bet 25 with my open-end str draw and flush draw, a big hand. He min-raised me to 50.

At this point, i feel he may flopped a str or AK. I want to find out if my str draw is still good if I made a lower str (8-Q) so I re-raised to 150 and he instant all-in. I tanked a bit and tried to work out my outs. I don't feel my lower str is good even if I made it and I can only put him on a made str. I can only court on my flush draw which was 8outs... so I folded as I don't get enough odds(550 to call a . Beside I don't want to go broke so early.

Afterwards I thought I made a mistake there and I should have considered his range and his thought about my range.

Maybe flat call his min-raise would be a better play? i could have won a nice pot or double up if I flat call.

After I folded, he showed his hand and he told me what he thought I had. Reveal these info after discussion.
LIVE 1-3, AQJ flop re-raise allin Quote
10-09-2008 , 09:42 AM
Preflop raise to 9 or 10.


Bet 3/4 on the flop and call a normal raise. IF he bets hard on the turn and you didn't improve shut it down.


As played call min raise and reevaluate on turn.
If he checks or makes a smallish bet 1/3-1/2 pot, Consider raising many turn cards, or call/check behind and hope for a spade on river. Shut it down UI if your turn bet gets called or raised. If you check/call turn and are checked to on River, fire out 1/2 pot spade or not. If he value bets Riv, Shove a flush and fold everything else.
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10-09-2008 , 12:24 PM
I would certainly just call the turn.
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10-09-2008 , 12:43 PM
What is your intent with your raise pf? If you're trying to make a pot sweetener a raise to 9-10 is fine, but if you're trying to establish control and get it heads up or 3 way your raise to 15 is fine, maybe 18 or more if there is a limper or two. This is live, not online, so small pf raises will get called by everyone (3bb or so).

I usually don't like raising to "see where you're at". You raised, he shoved, you know you're in bad shape. Better off calling the flop raise and re-eval on turn.
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10-09-2008 , 12:52 PM
Way to turn your hand into a total bluff. Just call his min-raise next time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermyself
Beside I don't want to go broke so early.
This is a cash game...you should never be worried about going broke. A buy-in is a buy-in, and that's why you have a bankroll. You should be playing to win, not to not lose.
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10-09-2008 , 06:55 PM
Don't three-bet the flop after you get min-checkraised. People who min-check raise live love their hand and are going nowhere but the center of the felt with it. Flat call his idiotic raise to $50, re-evaluate the turn.
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10-09-2008 , 11:06 PM
You folded, he showed you 55, "I think you are on a flush draw."

Am I right?
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10-10-2008 , 09:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by novel20
You folded, he showed you 55, "I think you are on a flush draw."

Am I right?
why would he min-raise if he put villian on a fd? I think he had 2 pair.
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10-10-2008 , 10:44 AM
We were v. deep stack and I want to know if I made my str, then would it be good to win. I certainly had to consider his possible holding K10 as he 4bet all-in so quickly and confidently.

My 3bet was a mistake and flat call his minraise was surely a better play. I was over my head when I flopped open-str + flush draw and I should carefully consider his range before 3bet him. I could have stacked him if I made my hand (str/flush) on the turn. Because he showed his holding AJ and he said he put me on AK. I was surprised that he did not consider my holding to be QQ, or AQ or str when I 3bet him on flop. I guess he was a bit more straight forward book player and he was too excited about flopping 2pairs.

Of course I was playing to win. What I meant was, I was not sure whether my outs for str were good enough. If I considered his holding as two pairs, I would most likely call. 930 in the pot and 600 to call with 17 outs with 2cards to come I think I was a slight favourite. It could be profitable call. Any comments on this analysis are welcome.

Anyway it was a good session for me.
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10-11-2008 , 12:52 PM
Dude, how can this be good? You just lost money!


Quote:
Originally Posted by mastermyself
Anyway it was a good session for me.
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10-15-2008 , 07:49 PM
raise less
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10-18-2008 , 01:53 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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