$1/$2 at Mohegan Sun in CT on a Saturday evening.

This is my actual first hand of the night. I only recognize one player at the table but he isn't in this hand.

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Hero is dealt JhJd

Two players limps to me in CO. I raise to $15.

SB (middle aged woman) cold calls. BB (middle aged Latino man, short stack) calls. First limper folds. Second limper (younger black guy) calls.

Flop: Jc9c4c (Pot: $55).

SB check. BB check. Limper donks $20 off $250 stack. Hero raises to $85. SB folds. BB calls All-in for $52. Limper calls $85.

Turn: Jc9c4c Ks (Main Pot: $211. Side Pot: $66).

Limper checks. Hero jams for $165 effective.

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Curious if anyone has thoughts on the flop raise facing the donk (just call? raise smaller?) as well as the turn with the weird small side pot. Is this a good jam? Or should I take a milkier sizing here?

I don't like the flop raise.
And turn shove is bad imo.

I don't know that this is a spot to milk.

I think at these stakes, you played it fine. It's a super connected board, with straight draws to go with the obvious flush draws.

We're going to lose pretty often, but we're never folding a set unless another flush card comes, so might as well try to get stacks in.

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I don't mind the flop raise, limper can be donking a bunch of worse hands with a flush draw and bad made flushes that hate when lots of money goes in ... but after the limper donk/calls he's not folding turn IMO, so either he has AcX/KcX/Tc9/99/44/etc and you are getting value or he has a flush and you are giving value and in general I find it's weighted significantly more towards giving esp. because randoms will be limp/calling a stupid amount of flush hands like Tc7c/Qc5c and I've even seen otherwise okay players with 6c5c in similar spots decide it has to be the nuts and have pikachu shocked expression talking about coolers when they see they are against AcQc/KcQc/etc or whatever.


tl;dr Don't mind flop raise, but def. checking back turn esp. as we'll kind of see what V has due to BB.

Flop raise is okay but turn raise is optimistic given that obvious straight draw comes in.

I'd rather try to fade the river club here and x behind. We're way ahead-way behind now and I can't see that we accomplish much by jamming, since we target such a narrow range that we'd want to fold out - something like Ac9x, case AcJx and KcJx and maybe Qc9x if V can have ATC.

Thanks for the feedback all. I agree the turn jam is not the right play here.

To be honest, I didn’t even think about QT completing in game which is pretty bad. I was happy the turn wasn’t a club and that the limper’s Kx of clubs would have to call off. I thought a lot of the limper’s flushes would jam flop and/or not donk small.

I didn’t even think about checking this back in game. Need to take my time in spots like this.

The result of this hand was that the limper tank folded the turn. He said he had the Ac. The shortstack in the BB had 5c6c and held to win the main pot. My net loss was around $40 after winning the side pot. Could have been worse I guess.

Probably a poor choice of words on my part, influenced by the fact that the limper in this hand ended up having a hand that I could have gotten another small turn bet out of.

barring weird circumstances like being vs. shortstackers, my flop raise % on monotone boards is 0. i dont think its correct to raise sets or weak flushes. thus if i only raise strong flushes i might as well play the hand faceup. thus i dont raise anything on the flop vs a bet.

This. ( Maybe zero is a bit extreme but definitely not a bad strategy)

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