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05-01-2017 , 10:58 AM
First hand sitting down at 1/3 table for hero. 8 People sitting at the table.

Hero is in HJ with A99 $300
Villain is in BB with about $500

PF:
3 players limp in front of me
I raise to 20
CO - SB Folds
Villain in BB calls
All 3 limpers call

Flop: 9 2 3 // Pot now (125)
Checks to me and I bet 80 into the pot
Call in the BB by Villain
Everyone else folds

Turn: 9 2 3 6 // Pot now (285)
Villain Checks
I check behind

River: 9 2 3 6 A // Pot still (285)
Villan raises 120
Hero Calls

Here is my thought process behind the hand and I would like some input on my line since I know I didn't play it perfectly.

PF: 3 limpers, first hand sitting down, I figured I would raise it and start by setting a table image with my hand being in good position against some weak limpers.

Flop: Very good flop for me. I bet strongly into a relatively dry flop. I bet 80 into a pot of 125 thinking I am most likely going to take it down since its hard to call with just a club draw and all of the cards are low. BB calls and I am thinking what he could have, he cold called in the BB from my strong raise so he maybe has a pocket pair of sorts such as 10's or JJ's but those are most likely going to be raising PF. The only other hand I imagine he has would be A5 or some weird club draw that is getting out of line.

Turn: Club draws are now completed. Looking back I think I should have bet here about half pot instead of checking behind the BB but in the moment I was a bit flustered and my head wasn't as in the game as it should have been considering it was my first hand. Had I had bet I would have represented a mad flush draw myself potentially and my range of hands would be very strong meaning the BB would have folded basically anything except for a very strong flush draw. But alas we go to the river.

River: Villain leads out for almost half pot. I call. The reasoning behind my call at the time was that the ace would have been a good hand for him to bet if he had an ace with another card that paired on the board on the flop or turn. Plus me checking behind after the club comes looks relatively weak so he might be taking a stab at the pot hoping to take it down. At the time I almost folded but I couldn't lay it down hitting the two pair on the river and again this was my first hand at the table so my though process at the time was more scrambled.

Thanks guys this is my first post here (hopefully of many) and I would love any kind of feedback I can get, in terms of the hand and in terms of posting
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05-01-2017 , 12:00 PM
Do we have pocket nines or A9hh?

GunclearG
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05-01-2017 , 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolapm9
First hand sitting down at 1/3 table for hero. 8 People sitting at the table.

Hero is in HJ with A99 $300
Villain is in BB with about $500

PF:
3 players limp in front of me
I raise to 20
CO - SB Folds
Villain in BB calls
All 3 limpers call

Flop: 9 2 3 // Pot now (125)
Checks to me and I bet 80 into the pot
Call in the BB by Villain
Everyone else folds

Turn: 9 2 3 6 // Pot now (285)
Villain Checks
I check behind

River: 9 2 3 6 A // Pot still (285)
Villan raises 120
Hero Calls
Please don't say that villain raised if villain didn't raise. Villain bet 120.

In a vacuum, I'd call, simply because the Ace puts you up in your range, and the river bet's fairly small giving you over 3 to 1 on a call. Having two pair doesn't affect things that much, but it could. E.g., maybe BB has 96 or A5.

Also, I prefer bet/folding turn and checking back river.

This is readless. It's plenty possible to have a good enough read on villain to know that they're the type to never bet river without at least a straight. So most importantly pay more attention to your villains. The fact that you've said absolutely nothing about this one makes me think that you're not paying any attention -- even if it is your first hand, they're still giving away a lot of information.

Last edited by pocketzeroes; 05-01-2017 at 12:13 PM.
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05-01-2017 , 12:19 PM
A 9 Sorry!
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05-01-2017 , 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pocketzeroes
Please don't say that villain raised if villain didn't raise. Villain bet 120.

In a vacuum, I'd call, simply because the Ace puts you up in your range, and the river bet's fairly small giving you over 3 to 1 on a call. Having two pair doesn't affect things that much, but it could. E.g., maybe BB has 96 or A5.

Also, I prefer bet/folding turn and checking back river.

This is readless. It's plenty possible to have a good enough read on villain to know that they're the type to never bet river without at least a straight. So most importantly pay more attention to your villains. The fact that you've said absolutely nothing about this one makes me think that you're not paying any attention -- even if it is your first hand, they're still giving away a lot of information.
Sorry for the raise, first time posting and I didn't catch the mistake! I feel like just sitting down I can get some sort of a read on the Villain but I don't imagine that the read should be strong enough to justify changing the play unless I caught something that was really out of sorts. He was a middle aged gentlemen, he didn't say anything or act in any sort of manner that wasn't relatively standard. I certainly try my best to observe the table and that is why I remember thinking that he was certainly capable of bluffing at the pot, he wasn't just some old tight looking geezer.

I am asking this question in a vacuum type scenario just because I wanna know if I played the hand correctly assuming we had no read on the Villain. I do prefer the bet fold on the turn as well as I mentioned in the post, but I didn't warm up properly before the session started so I was a little bit flustered in the moment. I know I should have done that better for sure.
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05-01-2017 , 12:51 PM
Unless we're super aware of what is going at this table / our own image, I'm just overlimping A9s after a bunch of limpers. Hate our result, which can often be expected at the loose tables I play at.

Preflop set us up for such a stupid postflop spot. Huge pot, TPTK, against the world, where we have no idea where we are, and yet preflop handcuffed us to where we have no room to figure anything out in a lol SPR 2.2 pot. I really don't know how to handle these spots very well cuz everything we do sucks (committing against a better hand sucks, betting small cautiously only to let draws get there in a huge pot sucks, everything sucks). I dunno, PSB flop to shove turn I guess. Or bet small and fold to action? Whatever. In the end we left ourselves a lol 3/4 PSB left for the turn, I mean, clearly we're committing, so I'd probably just bet more on the flop to do so.

Turn is obviously a sucky card (even 54 got there), and there isn't really many worse hands / busted draws that you'd think would be betting.

Getting good odds on the river but what do we beat that would actually be betting?

GcluelessNLnoobG
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05-01-2017 , 03:58 PM
I'd never fold to an unknown (and I did vote call). Obvious flush spot, but he also could have called the flop with Ax/A2/A3.
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