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10-05-2023 , 03:16 PM
Info I've seen on V sitting at table. He is 1/3 regular and plays tournaments as well as cash, v likely a winning player.
$1/$3 V has
  • Raised 8 UTG and it checked down and he couldn't beat KQ high
  • Open raised UTG 12 with QQ
  • IP he bet half pot multiway (5-ways) with 87o on A95
  • Has overlimped and called as UTG+1 versus UTG several times
  • Raised 15 on BTN bet 17 into 45 on q62r checked back turn and bet 45 on river when checked to
Hero has been playing extremely tight folding almost every hand pre. TAG image. Hero has 3 bet a couple times versus a different V who opens too often from EP after the V in this hand called him and taken it down pre.

OTTH:
About $600 effective. V makes it $13 in UTG+1, recreational older black lady in LJ calls, I make it $50 with AhQh in the HJ. Only V calls. This is first time he's defended agaisnt a 3 bet I've made probably 3 before in the last 90 mins that weren't defended.
Flop $100 comes 765dds.
V checks Hero checks.
Turn is (765dds) 5h.
V checks Hero checks.
River is (765dds) (5h) Ks.
V checks Hero bets $75, V folds.

Assume he had a hand QQ-88 maybe also AQ and let it go on the river.
I don't know V bluffing capabilities, was it the right move to not bet at all on the flop and turn IP on such a bad board, would it change OOP?
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10-05-2023 , 03:34 PM
Looks well played. You'd play AK exactly the same way. There might be an argument for checking back the river but he's going to make a pair with Kx often enough that there's not much left that you beat, and QQ-88 aren't always going to bet the turn, so your logic seems pretty sound. Preflop, flop and turn are good.
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10-05-2023 , 03:46 PM
Hand was played fine, you have to figure he's flatting you with a PP pre, and it's gonna be hard to get him off of it otf.

The king hits your range so that was a good bet which usually folds out lower PP's, especially after you 3bet pre and checked twice.
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10-05-2023 , 04:16 PM
I think I would just flat preflop. With the suited variety, I'm more ok with going multiway as well as keeping the rec lady in. I'd hate to face a reraise and have to dump it preflop (obviously lol sample size, but based on two hands his sizing is suggesting big hand).

Obviously sucky flop for us, but I think I might lean to a small bet targeting AK (which I think makes up a decent part of his range at this point).

Once we check back the flop I think I'm fine with checking back the turn.

And once he checks the river I'm fine with attempting to get big underpairs to fold by repping AK (which we credibly rep).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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10-05-2023 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I think I would just flat preflop. With the suited variety, I'm more ok with going multiway as well as keeping the rec lady in. I'd hate to face a reraise and have to dump it preflop (obviously lol sample size, but based on two hands his sizing is suggesting big hand).

Obviously sucky flop for us, but I think I might lean to a small bet targeting AK (which I think makes up a decent part of his range at this point).

Once we check back the flop I think I'm fine with checking back the turn.

And once he checks the river I'm fine with attempting to get big underpairs to fold by repping AK (which we credibly rep).

GcluelessNLnoobG
Would you still want to flat if the blinds are likely to come along too and we go 5 or 6 ways? The small blind is passive and won't squeeze without premiums, the BB could be possible to squeeze lighter than QQ. So you would bet small flop, check turn, and give up to a bet on a low card river? And with the current river bet small flop, check turn, bet river?
What about if hero is OOP just check the whole way and fold as soon as he bets?
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10-05-2023 , 11:20 PM
Played fine. This flop is trash for you, so is turn. River you should have all the AK as well so I like the bet to target pocket pairs.
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10-06-2023 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ylizarin
Would you still want to flat if the blinds are likely to come along too and we go 5 or 6 ways? The small blind is passive and won't squeeze without premiums, the BB could be possible to squeeze lighter than QQ. So you would bet small flop, check turn, and give up to a bet on a low card river? And with the current river bet small flop, check turn, bet river?
What about if hero is OOP just check the whole way and fold as soon as he bets?
My default is to actually fold AQ to EP raises until I know my opponent is capable of opening wide in EP. I know we only have 2 history hands to go on, but his sizing is suggesting a hand that AQ doesn't fare well against. However, with stacks this deep and us in position and having the suited variety, I'm a little more cool with continuing to a multiway pot with a playable SPR and keeping in dominated hands. So if the blinds come in behind us, I'm ~ok with that (and I'm definitely ok with keeping in the rec lady). I'd mostly dump AQo here as it doesn't do as well in multiway pots.

So yeah, as played, I'd be ok with a small cbet and then basically giving up UI (unless hitting this river card which we can rep).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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