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01-04-2019 , 10:04 PM
Hero: mawg, stack about $1k, has As Jc
V1: mabg, stack about $400
V2: older wg, stack about $120, button
V0: maag, stack about $300

V1 has gotten stacked by hero twice, was tilting but appears to have straightened out. Kinda vocal about 'garbage' hero was playing but not too bad.

V2 kinda omc, but has some gamble.

V0 will gamble, loose pte flop.

Preflop action: Hero in SB raises to $25 over button straddle, 3 callers.

Flop: Ac Jd Th (pot $100)

Hero checks
V0 checks
V1 bets $75
V2 all in for $120

What should hero do? Was flop check good? Raise from SB ok? Sizing?
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01-04-2019 , 10:17 PM
A lot of people don't have this in their UTG opening range. I'm folding from the SB. I'd play it from the BB due to the discount even if I normally fold it UTG, though (I don't always)

Not sure why you checked the flop. I'm going with the hand now and I don't see much point in flatting $120 when we're $275 effective with V1.
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01-04-2019 , 10:31 PM
Forgive the noob question here, but is our hero looking to get away from this rainbow board? if so, why? A pocket pair of A, J or T would have almost certainly 3-bet preflop, and now he's only behind KQ, and if he got coolered there he still has outs. In any game I've been in recently (1-3 live) the money's going in.
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01-04-2019 , 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElGordo
Forgive the noob question here, but is our hero looking to get away from this rainbow board? if so, why? A pocket pair of A, J or T would have almost certainly 3-bet preflop, and now he's only behind KQ, and if he got coolered there he still has outs. In any game I've been in recently (1-3 live) the money's going in.
JJ/TT often just call pre in 1|3 games. People are very passive pre-flop and in general. They probably shouldn't be 3-bet against a UTG open anyway. OP's opening range should be very tight and so should a 3-bettor's range. JJ/TT is still only 4 combos, though. KQ is 16. I am not looking to get away from this hand when they can have AK/AQ/JT/AT and a lot of pair+gutters (yes, AK is also often not 3-bet),
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01-04-2019 , 11:01 PM
So, c/r all-in is the concesus move here?

Last edited by NorCal_n00b; 01-04-2019 at 11:08 PM.
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01-04-2019 , 11:48 PM
So, let's say hero flats and checks a 7c turn, V1 is all-in. Call here?
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01-06-2019 , 12:57 AM
Ok, so hero folds gets showed:

V1: Jx Tx
V2: Ax Tx

How bad from 0(donkalucious)
to 10(super pro) did hero play?
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01-06-2019 , 07:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCal_n00b
Hero: mawg, stack about $1k, has As Jc
V1: mabg, stack about $400
V2: older wg, stack about $120, button
V0: maag, stack about $300

V1 has gotten stacked by hero twice, was tilting but appears to have straightened out. Kinda vocal about 'garbage' hero was playing but not too bad.
V2 kinda omc, but has some gamble.

V0 will gamble, loose pte flop.

Preflop action: Hero in SB raises to $25 over button straddle, 3 callers.

Flop: Ac Jd Th (pot $100)

Hero checks
V0 checks
V1 bets $75
V2 all in for $120

What should hero do? Was flop check good? Raise from SB ok? Sizing?
V1 is correct in his read of your hands

this was a no brainer fold pre
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01-06-2019 , 07:39 AM
Assuming BTN straddle is 6, i'd prefer 30-35 as a raise size. And really with AJo i wouldn't mind a limp here either, keeping all 3 options to respond to a raise open depending on the action.

Flop: i have no idea why we don't just cbet. If TT/JJ flat pre, than so does AK/AQ. Not to mention we are giving Kx and Qx free equity, and if somebody makes a random set on the turn we are going broke unnecessarily.

AP, sucky spot, but i get it in now.
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01-06-2019 , 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCal_n00b
So, let's say hero flats and checks a 7c turn, V1 is all-in. Call here?
Well, don't see any more reason to fold now than to fold the flop. If his range is AJ/AT/JT/KQ we have a profitable call. Even if you remove JT we have a profitable call. V1 can have KQ sometimes also, or at least a little equity to beat us, but I'm not too worried about him.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCal_n00b
Ok, so hero folds gets showed:

V1: Jx Tx
V2: Ax Tx

How bad from 0(donkalucious)
to 10(super pro) did hero play?
I'm not going to rank you, but you played every street differently than how I would have, so take that for what it's worth to you.

I would have folded pre, c-bet flop, shoved flop the second time around, and called the turn.
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01-07-2019 , 12:50 PM
I fold AJo preflop in EP (and even MP). Even though some of our opponents are loose, it's still a fairly garbage hand / easily dominated and mostly sucks multiway in bloated pot plus we'll be playing OOP.

SPR is < 4 against everyone (and much smaller against some) and we've got top two pair, so we're committed unless broadway comes, imo. I'd just PSB the flop to setup a turn shove.

Not really liking a check/raise as it can sometimes get hands we want to call to fold, but pot is huge at this point and there are some huge action killers, so I'd probably minnish raise to shove the turn. A flat ain't horrible as we can still just open shove the turn.

ETA: Even though there are certainly hands we are behind on the flop (KQ/JJ/TT are all very much in play), there are still hands that we are ahead of / draws. When we setup small SPRs thanks to a raise preflop and pretty much flop as good as we're going to, we can't fold postflop (for better or worse, and this is all due to preflop). If we hadda been in a high SPR pot (such as limping this in and seeing a limped flop) then we can consider getting away from our hand postflop. But in small SPR pots it's a pretty bad fold, imo. Noting that all SPR is doing here is quantifying our risk (our stack behind) versus the reward (the size of the pot), and here the huge size of the pot relative to our relatively small stack behind justifies committing with our relatively good hand.

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Last edited by gobbledygeek; 01-07-2019 at 12:58 PM.
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