Continuing to put time into nlhe working on my game coming from a strict lhe background. Again not so concerned with individual hand results ans much as the way I played them and my thoughts.

I've been in this game for about 45 minutes. My image (I believe) is TAG. I've raised a majority of the pots that I have entered and haven't made it to a showdown yet.

V1 is on the button and has about 50bb. He buys in in 50bb increments and has shown a propensity to be tied to a hand.

V2 is the big stack at the table with about 350-400bb. He seems to play only big hands and I have watched him limp kings in early position and just call the raise etc... Seems pretty passive.

Onto the hand.

Early position raise to $6 with 4 callers, including V2. I am in the cutoff with 8hTh and decide to call, confident that the sb will call and fairly confident the button will call as well. As I have been working on my game, I think that this is an easily disguised hand that will be easy to get away from and might take down a large pot. button calls, sb folds. Pot = 38

Flop 2h 6h 8s

Action is checked to me. I thought about checking here but I decided to bet $20. V1 and V2 both call, all others fold.

Turn brings the board to 2h 6h 8s Ts.

Checked to me. I bet $35, both call.

River brings Kd.

Checked to me, I ponder for a minute and check, V1 on the button raises all in. V2 calls, I fold. V1 shows 7 9 and V2 folds.

What do you think?

i think the villian played his hand horribly and should be somehow betting his concealed straight on the turn.

and why in gods name are you not value betting on the river?

A big part of the value of this type of hand is the fold equity. Bet more on flop and turn, and pay off the straight. You're losing tremendous value the way you played the hand, which saved you money in this scenario, but is losing you money in the long run.

who opened the pot to 6 from ep? is he/she tight? a lot of times this is a great spot to just make it 35 and collect.

I like it until the river. OTR, I would b/f for value vs V2 and b/call vs V1 due to stack size.

I probably go $25 on the flop to thin the crowd a bit more. The biggest reason with your hand is insuring a better flush draw doesn't have a reason to stick around. Turn is about right, going bigger against two opponents is bad. You bet enough to punish draws balanced against the chance your already behind.

I play the river the same. I'm actually more worried about V2, but in either case getting two callers on the turn and not hitting the river means I'm playing cautiously here. The most likely hands are missed draws and badly played sets and straights. If there was just one villain, I bet/call V1, and bet V2 but against two there shouldn't be any lone pairs in play anymore.

Grunching ...

When calling the PF raise with this type of hand, remind yourself of effective stack sizes. The deeper the better with this type of hand.

Bet more OTF, I'd suggest $28, more OTT as well. Good C/F on the river.

how much do you have at the beginning of the hand?
dont like your betsizing here, bet 30 on the flop and 80-100 on the turn.

If our stack is biggish, I'm cool with calling the small raise after all the other callers. Our goal is to get in a hand for cheap and see a flop with playable hands, preferably in position.

I also take a stab at the pot on the flop with a 1/2 PSB. Our hand could easily be good, but it is extremely vulnerable. Everyone has checked to us, so no indication anyone else has anything (and people will be playing more straightforwardly in this multiway pot). We're gonna hate a lot of turns, so I'd be happy with taking this down now.

The pot is $100 on the turn. The turn did complete a straight, but if that didn't happen, then we probably have the best hand on a fairly drawy board. I think our bet was way too small as it gives decent 3:1 odds to the first of two players. I bet on the larger side, say to $75. Against the shortstack villain, I'm committed. Against the larger stack villain, I can fold my hand here if he raises (unless I'm too short and committed); he'll be raising hands he considers best (which are probably better than ours) to protect against the draws.

Don't put results in the OP. Also spell out exactly the amount being bet on the river, size of pot, remaining chips, etc. so we don't have to add it up ourselves. I think V1 is fairly shortstacked at this point, so I would have simply bet enough to put him all in. As played, even though I hate overcalling, I think we're simply getting too good of odds to fold here (what is it, something like a $60 bet into a $200 pot + $60 call, so somewhere along the lines of +4:1).

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bet more, bet more, bet / fold the river ( if you have anything left)