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12-09-2008 , 12:11 PM

Deanglow

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,314

villain is jinsu416 who I haven't played with much. I think he is a regular, but he's 25/7 over 120. I'm 13/9. $453 left on the river. Anyone check?

Poker Stars $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $555.00
UTG: $111.00
UTG+1: $120.70
Hero (MP): $609.00
CO: $629.40
BTN: $798.05
SB: $595.20

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is MP with A

2 folds, Hero raises to $18, CO calls $18, 1 fold, SB calls $15, 1 fold

Flop: ($60.00) K

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $42, CO calls $42, SB folds

Turn: ($144.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $96, CO calls $96

River: ($336.00) 4

(2 players)
Hero

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12-09-2008 , 12:52 PM

WireySpinde11

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Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 606

I bet closer to pot on flop, turn is pretty good, probably bet river too, something 2/3rds to 3/4ths.

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12-09-2008 , 12:54 PM

GrandMelon

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7,734

more on turn

now bet like 275

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12-09-2008 , 05:24 PM

Moke

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 244

What hands are we hoping to get paid by? Why are you betting that size on river?

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12-09-2008 , 06:20 PM

tcoach

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 65

240 to 260 is optimal

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12-10-2008 , 02:36 PM

DrClaw

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 66

Is it possible that all of his hands that value-bet the river if you check to him will also call a value-bet that you make? Plus, some of his weaker holdings (AsXd for example) would call a moderately sized value-bet that he wouldn't bet himself if checked to, so you should probably bet the river.

I'm not sure how people know what the "optimal" bet size is here given that there is so little history. Considering that you'll call here if he raises anyway, there's no need to make the bet small so that you can get away from it, so bet as much as you feel doesn't look suspicious based on how you think he's playing, probably at least 2/3rds.

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12-10-2008 , 03:25 PM

DoubleFly

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,983

So hard to say because it's villain dependent. I'd be a little concerned about stack sizes here, since we would almost be forced to call a raise. Whether I'm happy to get it in here would depend on villain.

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12-10-2008 , 07:06 PM

King Spew

Just average

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 15,335

Does villain think you offer IO and will call PF with diamond suited connectors? And with a few more still in it PF, what were the table dynamics....was there a lot of squeezing that villain had to worry about? I just ask because we have just the one hand to worry about on our end after a flop call.

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12-11-2008 , 03:39 AM

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tcoach

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115 on turn

now...270-300

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12-11-2008 , 03:39 AM

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tcoach

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also, does anyone like c/raise flop here?

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12-17-2008 , 04:32 PM

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DoubleFly

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Originally Posted by tcoach

also, does anyone like c/raise flop here?

Only if villain likes betting unclaimed pots. Otherwise, I think I like just getting more money in the pot.

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12-17-2008 , 07:03 PM

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13_Xerxes

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Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,968

Keli will bet something like 165$, to be sure to be paid by worse. And he is the biggest winner in mid stakes. But his flop bet is 6 or 12$.

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