1/2 fairly tight table.

I have a TAG image. Mostly tight to villain, I haven't had many hands in the last orbit and was engaged in play less conversation for 10-15minutes prior to the hand.

Villain is TAG, understands ranging, seems competent, and on the tighter side. Didn't 3bet AKo IP to a UTG+1 raise. Almost folded AKo on a A K 6 flop to a 3bet on the flop (by almost I mean looked physically uncomfortable and took 3-4 minutes to make the call). Cont bets 60-80%. Almost folded trips with an okay kicker to a donk showing aggression in SB. Seems like a smaller 1/2 winner.

I am in the SB with KsQs. 2 limps from EP, Villain makes it 12 to go form the btn, I call, EP calls.

Flop: K J 6 rainbow ($40)

check, check, villain bets $25, hero calls, ep folds.

Turn: 7 rainbow ($90)

check, villain bets $40, hero thinks, and calls.

River: 9 ($170)

hero bets $115... thoughts?

meh, i think you played the hand *** backwards lol. i would have led out the flop, c/c river again. especially oop

He seems like the perfect villain to float and bluff w/. As played, well, you rep Q10 pretty well. Are you sure you aren't value betting? All you lose to is JJ, 66, AK, AA. Villain might have 55 here. I'd c/c a small bet rather than bet myself.

Why not just bet $50? It functions as a post oak type bluff and a blocker bet since your hand does have showdown value

Lead turn for 2/3 pot. If you are flatted, you may be able to lead river for ~1/2 pot for value. If you are raised, you can fold knowing you are likely beaten.

Do not flat 2 streets OOP assuming that your TP2K is no good. Your bet on the river should be for value, as I cannot see better folding and can see slightly worse calling.

KQ on Kxxxxx. Are you attempting to bluff? And if so why?

6th card dealt after river. misdeal IMO.


OP, why do you want to bluff here?

I see for the next couple of days we're going to have to start over on ranges again. I'm seeing way too many HHs without them.

The first question we have to ask ourselves is whether this player is sophisticated enough to punish limpers with position. For example, can we envision this player raising KJs or 88 on the button in this situation? Given the description of how timid this player is, the answer is probably no. Given the raise size, I think we can eliminate JJ or lower. Players like this play for shut downs pf. That leaves QQ+, AK.

Against that range, KQs is blowing chunks (3:1 underdog). Any action from the raiser means the Hero is crushed, unless the flop comes KQx. It becomes an easy fold pf.

If he is raising to abuse limpers, then we know his range has a bunch of marginal hands. We also know that he freaks out when up against any aggression unless he's holding the absolute nuts. If that is the case, then I like a 3bet much better than calling. We collect some dead money and get hands with better equity and position (pp) to fold.

Calling is the worst option.

There are situations when I believe flatting is the best option with KQs. Unfortunately, almost all of them include having position on the opponent.

OOP, we want to either fold to a player whose range we feel we are not performing well against or 3bet against a range that may flat us (people love to flat in position) with hands that play fit-or-fold postflop (PPs and SCs) or perhaps even hands that we have dominated, like KJs and QJs. Overall, we compensate for our positional disadvantage with a trouble hand with initiative and the ability to represent a very strong range.

When to flat KQs OOP...maybe against a raise from a tight player, with 2+ callers in front, and playing it purely as we would a suited connector in this situation. Looking to flop 2 pair+ or a good draw. And even this is marginal--one would need to rely on being able to play a draw aggressively against a timid opponent who has shown the ability to make a big post-flop fold. And this OOP is very difficult to do.

ok guys. I just finished replying a long reply on the other hand where i said i would overbet shove KQ over the J96 whatever flop. It was said that these donks will call massive shoves with all top pairs that they show up with.

Well, here we go.

I say flat the KQs pre so that we can allow all those KXs (quite a few of them) whatever hands come on into the pot as they do like sheep when there is a raiser + caller.

And if the reasoning holds true from the other hand, then we can bet bet shove or bet/shove and expect to get paid by all Kx hands.

I bring this up to see if the same consensus is here that if villain flats say KT pre, that he will call off his whole stack post. If so then we MUST leave them in the pot.

(keep in mind that i dont quite follow that that thought process unless the villains are just soooo god awful weak.)

After his turn bet his range in my mind was KQ,AK,QQ-AA.

I think I can get him off AK and KQ

[ ] donk the river

Venice is right. I don't think villain is raising KJ or 22-99/air, even with the button. His range is something like KQ, AQ+, 1010+. I should have folded pre. Pretty unconventional to fold KQs in the sb from a btn raise.

As played though, he folded AK.