V1 is mid 30s bad loose aggro asian with 1.5k
Loves to bet and donk with all types of hands.
Hero is tag mid 20s with 1.5k
V2 is extremely loose passive indian fish with $500
V1 limps utg
3 other limpers
V2 limps co
Hero btn with KsQc raises to 40
V1 and v2 call
Flop $130
Kd 9d 7h
V1 donks $50
V2 flats $50
I think i have the best hand here VERY often. V1 is likely donking a wide range that obv includes fds and a ton of pairs. V2 is super fishy and will call with any piece. Normally 100bb deep vs both villians i would raise this ezpz. But being this deep vs v1 should hero just flat and pot control? If i raise here id have to make it something like $175-200 and that is just going to bloat the pot to where tptk becomes very uncomfortable to play.
I am inclined to raise here. We have a pretty strong hand, but it's a small bet and they seem to have a lot of combined outs. Re-evaluate based on action and the turn.
How bad are villains? Will they call with worse if you raise?
This is a common spot that makes the deep stack difficult. You are dealing with competing objectives of pot control and equity protection.
I think the key is V1. If he will 3 bet flop with draws then just flat. If he will mostly call, then you can raise/fold.
The donk $50 feels like a blocker bet.
Limp calling ranges utg from these players is typically wide but mostly small-mid pp.
V2 I'm clueless about him.
I'm always raising here for real info (if possible) $185 - $220 on top.
This a bet fold line IMO .
Pot control makes sense when we're not ahead often enough to bet/raise to get value from worse or if we're worried about getting bluff raised off the best hand. In this case we should have the best hand most of the time as our hand is essentially TPTK and we're missing out on value by not raising. We also shouldn't expect to be raised off the best hand unless V1 has some sort of combo draw because of V2 in the hand. For those reasons I would raise/fold to a little over $200.