Hi guys I recently played an interesting hand at a 2/5 NL table and would like some feedback on the way I approached the hand.

Starting stacks:

Hero: $1200
Villain: $1000

Villain limps in MP. Hero opens to $30 on the BTN holding K K. It gets folded around to villain who calls.

The flop comes: 3 6 7 $67 in pot

Villain checks. Hero bets $40. Villain min-raises to $80. Hero calls.

The turn brings a J $227 in pot

Villain bets $100. Hero calls.

The river brings a T

Villain checks. Hero ????

Villain is a loose passive fish who tends to get aggressive with a made hand so with that being said and given the fairly deep stack sizes I opted to flat his flop min-raise and evaluate his action on further streets. His less than half pot turn bet indicates a relatively weak hand compared to KK given that sets and straights would have confidently fired big on such an irrelevant card but you just never know with such players so I opted to flat the turn. Villain checks the river so at this point would you opt to check back the river or make a value bet? Could I have re-raised any previous streets for value?

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Not enough concrete read to say anything solid, but I expect enough hands in villain's range to think our hand is better > 50% of times.

I'm no expert and I'm interested in hearing opinions on this hand also. Personally, my gut says to check back, but I can be a wimp. But I feel like I'm missing value for real like that. He just played the hand so crazy, it has thrown me for a loop. For starters, more description of villain would be super helpful. How many hands you've played together, etc. But the first thing I noticed is that you called him passive but aggressive with good hands. That seems contradictory. That description sounds more like a player who doesn't bluff much/any and has no bearing on his aggressiveness level. So when you said passive player min check raises flop, I feel like you're drawing slim/dead. That statement alone is shockingly scary. I guess he could have a hand like mid pocket pairs. Or pair with open ended. That's his only range you beat. And even those hands sound discounted vs a "passive player". His flop action screams straight or set. But I would probably play the hand just like this, call flop and turn given such great pot odds. Fwiw vs most players, I would be raising either flop or turn.

He will probably call another $100.

Unless he missed his draw.

Free money, IMO.

B/f 275

I agree with bet/fold.
But I dunno about sizing. I think he has a lot of weaker 1p hands like flopped TP/TK and 99/88 so I'm going $150 or so.

b/f $475. He's never shoving with worse facing a >PSB and he will probably call with medium overpairs and Txhh or Jxhh since the FD missed and it looks like that's what you have. If V has a hand like A3hh or A4/A5hh he's probably folding regardless of what you bet, but making a small value bet also gives him the chance to bluff c/r you twice (if he's any good) which looks pretty strong and then you've got a crappy decision to make.

But he is not that good lol. I believe going for a thin value bet serves the same purpose; he calls with weaker holdings and raises with hands that have me beat.

I'd still bomb it

I check back here. his sizing is very fishy but can be a bet begging for a call.

He can also have 89hh here, but what I don't understand is why did he check the river with our hand relatively face up with him hitting a hidden gin, maybe thinking of x/shoving river?

Wow I'm rly bad I guess.
Nobody finds a fold OTT? If he semi-bluffs V description shouldn't be passive... Did he have any betsizing tell?

As played I wasn't expecting a river check, I check and force him to show and I adjust my read.

agreed with bet fold $150. maybe $200 max. he either has a weak one pair hand (most like 78, 79, A6 type hands) OR a scared 67, 36, 73 two pairs hand. i think betting more will get him to fold too often and theres still a decent chance we're beat

i used to fold turn in these spots and after reading bart hanson, i think folding turn without better reads is too nitty. yes we are beat alot but we also have the best hand alot (villain could have 88, 99, 78, etc). we are getting over 3:1 on a call so we only have to be good ~24% of the time or so. plus we can easily fold blank rivers if he triple barrels.

How are getting called by worse otr vs described v in mp(not really important) on this
Board even w a busted fd on board.
Im also folding ott.

+1

Slimshady changed my mind but why would he be calling pre
W 63 73

#guychangesmind

I agree with b/f i like $175 though. Just feels like the max for him to call without shoving, if that makes sense. He may fold to anything less if he reads value imo.

It's live poker. Folds to him and he's super deep against hero and already has $5 invested. In a fish's mind, he is calling $25 more only (and closing action) to win over $1k. I wouldn't be surprised to see 63o, 73s, or even 73o here.

You can't assume live players play the same as you. Just because you wouldn't limp call 73o here (i wouldn't even limp call 76s here unless i was planning to bluff a lot of flops) doesn't mean live players wouldnt

Villans super small Xr and less ths half pot bet on turn is super strange line to take. I don't think we have a clue what villans limp calling range is. I think we should never be folding to the min raise or small turn bet, way too exploitable. I'm getting to the river for sure as played. What I can't get behind is the over bet/fold. What are we expecting to call us? We force folds from 1 pair hands and only get called by better. If we bet small we get lots more crying calls with 1 pair hands which I feel makes up the most of his range at this point.

If we had better reads on villan I may actually check river.

Bet/fold $150 to target 6x, 7x, 88-99, Jxhh, Txhh.

Bet fold 200 sounds right I guess.

grunch: check back

this is kind of a dumb grunch because i'm checking back because i can't put a solid read on villain. limp-calls are dangerous. suited connectors seem to come up a lot. that means straights and 2p are in range for most players here. the one part that i would be racking my brain about is his min-raise on the flop. does that mean strength or is it a "see where i'm at" raise. some guys will limp call a big preflop raise knowing you'll miss the flop most of the time and they can steal it.

once i get to the river... if i don't have a read that this guy has a decent pair, i'm checking. if he has you beat you obviously don't want to give him a chance to re-raise you or even make a crying call with 2p or better. you have showdown value. there are some hands that you beat that will call. i think there a lot more hands that beat you that will call or raise.

make him show first.

I really agree with this.

I think information is worth way more then a 150$ value bet here. This really looks like 88-99 but if we bet and he folds we have no idea if he minraised to see where he's at(with 88-99) or if he min-raised to fold out your air and because he had equity when called, then shut down when he missed OTR and did not bet a missed draw OTR.

Obviously if you're leaving in 30min I'd just bet since you won't be able to use this but I think a check is good.