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03-05-2015 , 04:51 PM

Eclipse14

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 128

$1/2
All around $300 behind. No one super short or super deep.
Just sat at table no history with any
Utg villian seems to be extremely Lag from few hands I've seen. In 2 orbits he's played 75%of hands. Most taken down to a 12 pf raise and cbet flop.

Hero- 260behind in HJ

Hero- dealt KcKs
Utg straddle to 5 (has us slightly covered)

2 Limpers
Hero makes it $35

Utg calls (straddler)
Limper folds.

Flop QhTh3x.

Utg check.
Hero bets $50
Utg raises to $110.

Should hero fold or jam?

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03-05-2015 , 05:07 PM

bobman0330

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,234

Pot the flop. This board is way too drawy to fold. I'm alarmed that he made a minraise rather than just CRAI, but that alarm is not strong enough to make me fold against a LAG in this spot.

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03-05-2015 , 05:10 PM

wj94

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 7,963

Fist pump jam.

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03-05-2015 , 05:19 PM

ZuneIt

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,160

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

Pot the flop.

Which is $230 after V's raise to $110, + H's $60 call, so Pot bet is: $350? Or, $290? Not much difference, since it appears Hero started with ~$260.00

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

This board is way too drawy to fold. I'm alarmed that he made a minraise rather than just CRAI, but that alarm is not strong enough to make me fold against a LAG in this spot.

I'm in your camp all the way - V sees 75% of the flops! I'm ALL-IN !

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03-05-2015 , 05:23 PM

ShermanTank

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 401

Bob meant bet 80 imo. When I first saw this I wasn't sure either. Hard to fold to V description.

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03-05-2015 , 05:30 PM

progress

adept

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,108

jam

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03-05-2015 , 05:37 PM

Eclipse14

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 128

That's what I ended up doing.
The min raise kinda confused me. But I jammed and got snap called by TT

Afterwords I didn't think there was much way of getting away from kings there.

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03-05-2015 , 06:57 PM

ZuneIt

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,160

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Originally Posted by Eclipse14

That's what I ended up doing.
The min raise kinda confused me. But I jammed and got snap called by TT

Afterwords I didn't think there was much way of getting away from kings there.

I can't fold with the stack you started with. I thought V was capable of the flop c/r with AQ, KT, J9, KJ etc.
We only had to worry about QT & sets having us beat on the flop. Isn't that 18 hands?

Bad beat.

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03-05-2015 , 07:04 PM

eldiesel

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,585

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Originally Posted by Eclipse14

Just sat at table no history with any
Utg villian seems to be extremely Lag from few hands I've seen. In 2 orbits

20 hands and no information? That can't be the case.

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03-05-2015 , 07:04 PM

#10

Below Zero

adept

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 848

PF: OK

F: Heads up. Pot is $80. SPR is 2.8. Seems pretty straight forward against a V that "seems to be extremely Lag". Our SPR is 2.8; we should be committed. Time to shove. Never folding in this spot.

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03-05-2015 , 08:14 PM

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Eclipse14

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 128

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Originally Posted by eldiesel

20 hands and no information? That can't be the case.

I meant as in past history. 1hr of play =/= knowing certain betting pattern exploits etc.

Edit: I thought it was pretty standard . Just wanted to get some second opinions, making sure I wasn't just getting too attached to my overpair

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03-05-2015 , 10:43 PM

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eldiesel

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,585

Some people don't c/r with 1 pair or worse. Some people c/r draws. It's difficult to tell when the Vs are unknown.

I used to sit at 1/2 with the $300 max. every time, sometimes with splashier players it's easier to sit with 75-100 BB. You can just get ai with overpairs/TP and not think about it much because speculative hands Vs are playing aren't eff deep enough to see the flop.

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03-05-2015 , 11:56 PM

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br3nt00

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 3,664

i am never folding here, especially given reads. i jam and feel good about it

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03-06-2015 , 12:28 AM

#14

Nice_Guy_Eddie

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,135

SPR less than 3. Bet about $70 and prepare to shove any turn. As played, you're never folding. Jam

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