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01-03-2015 , 01:58 PM
ok want my line for proper value bet here.

$.25/$.50 nl 9 handed.
live $1.00 straddle
3 calls
Hero Raise $7.00 F,F,C,C,C,F,F,F($31 pot)
I have $32 behind SB & UTG cover.
Range on these guys is any A9+, TT+, any BW
most are loose passive callers only will raise when hit nuts, but will gamble

Flop come K92r.
check to me.
How do I get it in on 2 streets?
If they don't hit something I won't get paid on river. Also they see a big pot and lick their chops, but never pay attention to bet vs pot size.
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01-03-2015 , 02:27 PM
I'm betting $15 on the flop and shoving turn. This hand won't get to the river.
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01-03-2015 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JGP417
I'm betting $15 on the flop and shoving turn. This hand won't get to the river.
^

This.
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01-03-2015 , 04:30 PM
With your remaining stack size you could even bet $10 on the flop. Give someone the opportunity to raise you because of weak cbet size, or even if only one person calls the $10 bet the pot's $51 and you have $22 left, which is not even a 1/2 psb on turn. Easy call for them if they called on flop.
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01-04-2015 , 04:27 PM
We have top set on an uber-dry flop, meaning we block the majority of hands anyone will call a nontrivial bet with. Betting $15 is just silly given we only have a PSB left. We could bet $6-8 (to at least get gutshots to call incorrectly), and have no trouble getting it in against Kx. We might also get a call from a hand like TT-JJ that can't find the fold button facing a small cbet.

Though, if "gamble" means these guys don't care about odds and simply chase everything, then why not just jam the flop and get terrible calls from QJ/QT/JT?
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01-04-2015 , 04:40 PM
Yes that is what I mean by gamble. They will chase. When I make these move they but me on AA every time.

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