1/2. 350 effective stacks.

V1 Terrible player, transparent, bleeding money. Preflop, he limp-calls his bad hands and raises his good hands.

V2 Calling station, fit and fold on the flop, bets his good hands.

V3 Unknown straddler, just sat down.

OTH

Buy in 315

V3 straddle on the button. V1 in UTG calls. Hero with KJss in the UTG+1 calls. V2 in MP raises to 30. V3 on the button calls. V1 calls. Hero thinks about it…for one second and calls, four way.

Flop QhQdTh (115 after rake)

V1 donk-bets 55. Hero?

Pretty clear fold, none of your outs are clean, and there are 2 players yet to act.

Why didn’t you open pre?


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It never ceases to amaze me how many of these hands are botched preflop, either by not raising first in or not raising or 3-betting large enough, etc, etc.

Preflop is a fold to the raise. I would want effective stack + pot to be around $600 before considering a call. Being OOP against 2 of 4 opponents probably need more before I call.
Post flop is a fold also. You may not have any clean outs and one of the 3 nines that are not hearts are the only outs hero likes to see. Hero can't float in hopes of bluffing a scare card because hero has no idea which cards are scary to villain and could be bluffing into a boat anyways.

The preflop limp is not bad if the table is really passive but if your going to do that you have to be ready to just fold to big raises. If the table is more active then raise or fold yourself to begin with.

OP you forgot to add that hero plays like V1. lol.

raise pre. as played fold pre because without initiative in this spot i doubt your hand is profitable.

def fold flop i dont think its close you arent even closing the action and donk bets on this board mean very strong hands.

I try to avoid overcalling or overlimping in EP and if I do, this is not a hand I would do it with. I have no evidence to back this up but I guess playing this hand is worth about 10c of EV from this position so either fold or raise. I guess I'm raising but its close.

AP fold pre to the raise, we are OOP and dominated by V2s range. I'd call here with a suited Ace.

AP fold to the flop bet. Not drawing with dirty outs 4 ways.

I raise preflop every time, but I don't mind calling the raise getting 4/1 closing the action with, as Andrew Neeme would say, 40% of a royal flush.

Flop is a reluctant fold and it's all about the players yet to act. Closing the action this would be a square call if nobody had gone crazy. With two players still to act, just let it go

"Preflop, he limp-calls his bad hands and raises his good hands"

So you decide to call after he limps?

Getting 4:1 and closing the action, I call against the raise even though we're only 70 straddles deep.

Sucks to fold the flop but with two guys behind us and no clean outs..

Easy fold.

Next time raise pre.

Results:

Hero tank-folded. V2 folded.

Turn 6x

V1 checked. V3 made a pot-sized bet. V1 called.

River Ax

V3 all in. V1 called. V3 showed 66. V1 mucked. Hero was the small stack.

OP, what bothered you the most about how this hand was played that had you create a HH about it?

KJs is a fine hand to iso someone who splits their range like this.

I see now I not only played this hand wrong but also mixed up my notes on the Vs.

Next time, I'll raise pre rather than call. I was for weeks following a never-limp strategy. Some twoplustwo posters criticized this inflexible approach (i.e. most people said three limps with 22 on the button is a call, not a raise). But against a weak open-limper like V1, iso-raising is the best strategy. Because the pot went multiway, I tanked on the flop as I realized I could not capitalize on my draw equity. When I sucked at poker more than I do now, I found myself with sigh folds like this one much more often. Raising pre to isolate a weak V, as Harrington once wrote, makes flop decisions easier.

After I tanked, I was surprised I wrote down the rest of the hand. I was not surprised my notes were mixed up--three Vs, preflop action, a tank-fold by the hero on the flop followed by more action. I couldn't remember V2 very well. I should know better: someone who calls a lot pre and plays fit-and-fold on the flop is not really a calling station.

Thank you for your comments and humiliating me once again on twoplustwo.

V3's flop call is hilariously bad.

Limping first in is generally not the most profitable strategy. Limping behind can be okay. But you have a hand that you can raise from UTG and 3bet from any position. Definitely want to be iso raising here. KJs is a really good hand.