It's 3am, I just sat down on a 7handed table.

1$/1$



HERO(HJ)(200$) : OR to 10$
CO : CALLS 10$
BUTTON : CALLS 10$
LAG(SB) : RAISES TO 45$
HERO : SHOVES FOR 190$
CO : FOLDS
BUTT : FOLDS
LAG(SB) : CALLS 190$

Hero shows KJs
V shows A3

Result orientated, not. The reason I shoved on this V is because after several observations, he tends to raise SUPERBLY huge, like the above mentioned to steal the limpers and callers money, and he loves to show his hand in thee beginning of the game.

He plays higher STAKES games too like 2/2 and 5/5 and he sure feels like a competent player.

There was another hand which I played against V. It is as shown below. I believe that this hand that was played on another session
Has some impact on how V conceived of hero's table image.

The FLOP is : JAJ

TURN : 6

HERO(IP) : 33p

V betted FLOP and TURN and HERO HAS 120$ left OTT and decided to raise him up for FOLD EQUITY(almost no EQUITY WHEN CALLED).

Back to the present. How could HERO have played the KJs vs A3 better? Please advice.

II have recently just learnt how to seek for situations and spots and I try to put it to work and I thought that in this spot and also in the JAJ6 FLOP hand, his range is SUPERBLY wide and that's why I did what I did. Any thoughts on how I could further improve on what I'm trying to do now?

For the KJ vs A3 hand, he just snapped at it without any much thoughts. And he hit TP OTF and OTR he hit TOP AND BOTTOM.

Result oriented, not. Peace.

What? The title says you have AJ? then 33P

Hey, sorry man it's the auto correct. I have KJs.

The 33p is another hand which I believe has played a part in how I played the hand as well as how V conceives of my image. I'll try to change the title if I can. I just did, not working.

Brb

What range do you think he 3! and then calls a shove with? How does KJss stack up against that range?

If it's ATC, fine shove. Otherwise flat and get it in if you hit.

Hi!

I think V's range is super wide. In 10 handed games V were stealing with hands such as 84s. Say there are 4 limpers and V is OTSB, V knows that the limpers range is all over the place and he would raise like 50$ just to steal the dead money and blinds. I would say V would open at least 3 hands per 10. The table is tight against him, and even if they were to call, when V overbets on a low RAGGED board OTF, most V's at the table FOLDS. I assume V does it because V knows that they range is weak on certain boards and he doesn't want them to call.

I would say V really is a competent player but some moves he make, although it works, seem to be risking way too much such as the above hand.

As for the A3 hand, V called without putting in much thoughts. I feel either V has my 3bet range against him nailed down, or V is just out to gamble. Good to know too is V has been running hot

I don't like the KJs shove. When stacks go in, we're flipping at best, but generally behind or dominated. But we're rarely ahead. That's not how I like to put my money in.

I'd be fine with it if villain were the one and done type...i.e. he'll try a 3b steal but will fold to a shove. But villain is a lagtard which means he disdains the fold button, as he demonstrated. If I'm going to make this move, I'd want to have 99+ or AXs.


Did I read correctly that you shoved 33 on AJJ/6 after he barreled twice?? Wow that's pretty ambitious trying to make him fold.

Overall I think you're targeting the wrong villain. I know you know his range is crazy wide, but if he doesn't have a fold button then don't try to raise him off hands. Stick to value betting him. Raise the weak tight players. They're the ones who will muck to you.

Against these players you have to think value, value, and more value. You can't out spew a lagtard. You should GII vs this guy with AT+/77+. If he starts jamming K2 or whatever, then, yeah, snap shoving KJs is good.

I will never understand why we raise 10bb. And why we stack off KJs for 200bb, it just cannot be +EV game. Even suggested range AT/77 seems to be pretty wide.

Quit trying to flip against mo-rons is where I would start.

This x10.

I don't know why people are so happy to coinflip vs LAGs with trouble hands.

Thanks man This is good advice. I'm just starting out think beyond ABC poker and have been overly aggressive against the wrong Vs' and also also have been hearing from many online saying, get stove or some EQUITY calculator, plug hands in, mess around wit' dit, soon you will understand it, and I think this are spots which I could plug hand ranges in and understand just exactly how stove etc can help improve my game.

Thanks once again

Thanks for your advice I'll keep a mental note on it.

That's the average raise at the play I frequent. I did try raising it up smaller but they just take it as a form of weakness and 3bets huge, inflating the pot.

So, if thee pot is going to get inflated, I rather be the one inflating it, with position, and initiative. Yeah

Thanks man, that's sound advice.

I'm not exactly happy when he called, though I do know that his range consist of a ton of garbage such as lower SC/SG/literal garbage and of course his fair share of premium hands, though the former ones are the hands he usually show when he pulls off a bluff or when he thin value BETS against a fish and gets to showdown with.

To illustrate my point better: Is KJ in your standard shoving range pre?

Then why is it vs a known LAG? "You think you're ahead of his range" translates to you're OK flipping.

It's not just you, this is a common opinion on 2+2.

No, KJ isn't in my PREFLOP shoving range.

When I shoved it, I expected that he would fold his garbage and only call with 88+ , ATs+. Even though he is loose, but I have never seen anyone who attempted to out aggro this V, so I thought if I left him with no other options, he would fold most of his speculative hands.

But yeah, that was how I thought at then.

Obviously we should widen our shoving range against a maniac (this player as described is a maniac, not a competent LAG) I don't understand your point. Are you saying you're opposed to a slightly favorable flip if we're ahead of his GII range?

The shove with KJs here is probably thinly +EV. It would be much more appealing if there were more dead money in the pot or if we had FE against stuff like the Ax stuff he ended up calling with. I think I prefer playing our hand as a bluffcatcher or stop&go. This guy will probably donk off his stack into us if we hit a pair, and is heading to the flop with a wide, weak range that will rarely flop well, so we should be able to have some bluff opportunities on favorable flops. I'd rather flat and let him make further mistakes post-flop with his weak range than GII with a thin edge.

Hi LG, tom here just curious where do you play at now?