Hero has a very tight image, being card dead in this session. I have about 240$ effective.

Villain covers. Villain in this hand tends to overvalue his hands; a small bet to him= weakness and he 3bets with enormous sizes in relation to the pot with QQ+ ( I have seen someone open to $8 get 2 calls and he bumped it to $70 preflop.)

Straddle to 4$, table is playing loose passive. Raises are almost always 77+ and AJ+ for the most part.

Hero has K3 and calls from the SB. I hate playing out of position but the odds are too sweet and I feel I have a very good read on the table. This table has a good mixture of people who have a fold button, and others that overvalue their hands.

POT$24
Flop comes j93
I check with the intention of using my table image to c/raise the competent players, and c/call the fish.

Unfortunately is checks around.

Turn is 8

Very good, yet interesting card. I decide to donk the turn very small in hopes to get a raise from a villain with 2pair. My image is weak tight at the moment so it can also allow people to spew bluff raise me, villain dependant.

Hero bets 7 (lol I know. This was situation dependant) to induce a raise,
Villain1 raises to $37.

His re raise and body language looked like he has a strong but vulnerable non nutted hand. Given the stack sizes I thought a 4 bet makes my hand rep a flush and scares him off given my image is really rock at the moment. I am very confident his range consists HEAVILY of Q10, 10 7, and 2 pair. Sets are almost always discounted based of the weight of the board as he raises 77+ preflop.

My goal was to bet small to induce a false sense of where a villain was at in the hand, and my plan worked.

Is shipping too strong given my image? Does this allow villain to make a solid laydown? I am viewed as a nit probably, so the only hands I feel that can call a re raise OTT are small flushes and the nut flush (which i dont put him on.)

I felt c/shoving good rivers is max value. I feel me flatting turn and giving villain opportunity to value own himself was best since I have seen him value own thin bet himself in the past. He is the typically 1/2 player who assumes a check OTR is not a flush ever. Thoughts on my thought process on the turn?

Hero calls.
River card spoiler coming later.

I like the small bet to induce on the turn and agree the third bet would fold out all of his straight combos so a call is in order. To figure out what's best on the river you must estimate what % of the time he flats your donk bet opposed to how often he bets Q10 and 107 when checked to and calls a raise. You said he value bets thin, so cr it is!

I would consider leading bigger, so that the raise is bigger.

Definitely check the river. Lead on river after flatting a turn raise = super strong.

Tank shove. Sometimes it works, sometimes they fold. But overall I think its more +EV than trying to extract that little bit of river value when you are OOP.
Also, after you have called his turn raise....he is never betting the river without the nuts....so forget about c/r the river move.

I would just 3-bet to $120 with the intention of getting it in OTT...given V's description, and I think you've got his range down correctly, he's never folding once he makes this raise. It's not an info-raise, it's a "protect my hand against flush" raise, plus there are many action killers which won't allow you to check/shove (heart, board pair)...also, V may check behind with straights/2pair combos OTR and you lose value.

I think V can lay down 2pair on a 3-flush board to an overbet/shove OTT with ~$60 in the pot, facing a raise of $170ish, so IMHO being OOP allows us to extract value pretty easily by bet/3! with the intention of getting it in OTT, o by leading river.

I think I three bet ott. As mentioned his bet seems more like he is protecting a hand other than raise folding for info. I think that what ever hand he b/c with on the river woo gii ott. Also he might spew with the lesser part of is range. I go small again. Probably make it small like to 70. Than if called you can shove any river but I think villain will gii on the turn.

I agree. Make him make a tough call with 2pair/straight and don't let another heart come to scare him away. He has no air in this hand at this spot and he can't be expecting to improve basically ever by the river, so just get it in here.

Call turn best. Lead more than 7 (lol?)

Min 3-bet and get it in if "he smells weakness".

Just a thought: If you are leading small to induce a raise, have a plan for once that raise comes; otherwise, I think standard sizing is more appropriate. I think calling is best. To those who say never lead river, I agree on blank rivers. However, there are a bunch of river cards that I am leading.

A I'm leading small to milk villain because he's almost guaranteed to c/back anything he has. Any x, I'm leading small/folding for thin value since again, he'll be checking back anything worse and likely isn't going to raise us with anything but the nut-flush. Straightening cards like Qx, 7x, 10x I'm probably also leading. If he has two-pair/set, he's checking these back every time; yet, he'll likely still call a small bet. If he has a straight, he might not call a c/raise, and he might not even bet it thinking "we have a chop at best" OTR, especially if it is no longer the nut straight OTR. If he has a smaller flush, our perceived range is going to look like a straight after our turn line and small lead OTR, and he'll raise the river for value a lot. If the board pairs, I am not entirely sure what line I take, but I'm probably bet/folding small.

Edit: Actually now that I think about all these weird river cards, I wonder if 3betting the turn is best.

i like your thought process on it, however i feel like 10-14 may do the same and he may bump it more? just a thought.

and im curious, on a 4h turn, whats your plan?

I agree that I should have bet somewhere around 10-15 and therefore got a bigger raise.

I plan on b/folding about a $40 bet OTR if a heart or paired board appears. If the board pair this type of villain would be happy to call if he had a straight, and raise on fullhouses.

lol plan was good, but the size should have been a tad bit bigger imo. Wish I bet 10-15

Try this.

Snap call turn, then tank for a minute before shoving river.

This is a good idea; until this river card shows up:


Now what?

Before I posted I was pretty sure shoving the turn allows villain to make a nice laydown, as we are perceived as tight and we rep strictly flushes for the most part. I never had a plan for a 4 card straight flush to come on board. Maybe I should have thought this over before the river about the possbility of 10 coming, which makes us way too vulnerable.

Also, since villain is a losing player maybe he levels himself into "He may have a flush but I cant fold"
He seemed to be playing better than other occasions on this day, though he is a fish. He was up 300+ atm

Definitely the bet/fold spot.

Bet $50 and fold to a raise.

This.

I like everything you did up until the turn. Leading so small OTT is horrible I think - make it 1/2 pot at least. But as played, I guess I like tank-calling then leading any scare river scare card (any straight card or ) and c/shoving any brick.