2-5

Both of us have 1500 effective

Hero: 88

Villain limped at mp and another player limp before him

Hero raised 20

SB BB first limper and Villain called

Flop Tc 8c 10h

Check to Hero and Hero bet 40

Only villain calls

Turn 5d

Villain donk leads 90, Hero call

River: Qd

Villain bet 300, Hero raised all in, Villain called with T-8o

Not complaining about cold deck, just because I talked to my partner regarding this hand she said I may not need to raise all in at the river since not much else besides hands that can beat you can call such a big bet, just want to know anywhere I can improve such as bet sizing etc

Its fine… not giving rando mp limper credit for being a goodish bet/folding player so just cram river 100% and print, unlucky result

Complete cooler. you're going bust no matter what. You played it fine. On the bright side you have fish limp calling T8o from middle position.

I might make it 25 pre but its table dependent.

With an underboat, I think the Turn should be a raise, and a hefty one. The Villain’s range is tilted very heavily toward trips here, and you’d want to raise to get value from them.

I’ll also slightly disagree with your partner: your River shove is ambitious but probably on balance fine. Villain is in a really terrible position with AT/KT no club here—I think he has to just puke-call it off most of the time. (And maybe even some of his J9 no clubs too.)

Pre I would go $30, 4bb+1bb per limper.

Otherwise I think it is fine. River might be thin. He definitely calls with 55 if he has it. If he calls with Tx and J9 for sure. I think AT are J9 would be enough combos to make the jam profitable. And T8 offsuit is hard to put him on. If your 88 blocked Ts, it gets even better. Larger iso pre can narrow his range down a bit.

Preflop 25-35. Your raise is a pot sweetener, I'd rather overlimp than that sizing.

I think shoving is OK, however you now lose to QQ and QT both of which are possible, as well as quads (do you remember from your suits whether T8s was possible?) so is raise-folding perhaps a better option? That's results oriented though

Pot: ~180
Turn: Tc8cTh 5d
Villain donk leads 90

...I understand you showed the result ... but people don't do this with J9, and probably not with AT either.
AIUI V was closing the action on the flop? At is a bit more likely then, as he might be waiting for a card not near the T.
This is the brickiest turn ever, if V "likes" this card it's likely because he likes that it didn't hit either of you (or, more specifically, you).

H calls

...this is fine, would be a massive exploit to fold. Raising is probably fine here, as V probably can't fold AT and maybe a lot of other Ts.


Pot: ~360
River: Tc8cTh5d Qd
V bets 300

...again, there are a bunch of reads that can sway things here but I'd start by assuming that V is actually strong (isn't bluffing) and very likely doesn't have a "weak" T like JT/T9.
_Maybe_ he's got "lucky" with J9, but that means he decided not to bluff the flop and then decided to randomly bluff donk bet the turn on a brick and got there on the river.

So we are left with strong hands that didn't want to scare you on the flop, but want to put more money in when a brick hit in rough order of likelihood:

T8,AT,TT,QT,KT

KT: Maybe the worst pre. but like a bad AT after that. Also would tend to be more worried about running into AT or better, esp on the river.
QT: Like a bad KT on turn, but obviously the nuts on the river.
TT: Unlikely limp/call pre. ... but after that it makes sense. But only 1 combo.
AT: Pre/Flop all make some sense, but Turn is not that normal and I'd expect river to bet less or at least be a little bit worried ... but some agro. Vs might just keep firing (although they might also be more likely to raise flop).
T8: Pre/Flop/Turn all make sense and much more likely to think that 2nd nuts doesn't have to worry about you hitting a 3 outer on the river.


H shoves 1350, which is 1050 (210bb) more into 960.

...if the river was a 2,3,4,6 I think this is fine, because you are now looking at V having something more like T8,AT,KT,TT,QT and even JT/T9 might bet the river hoping you have JJ+.
But on a Q, for overpairs V has to hope you have KK+ ... or?

V theoretical possible combos:

TT: 1
T8: 2
QT: 6
AT: 8

...so you need him to 100% take this line with AT and call river _and_ call at least another couple of combos. of something else. _And_ hero is allowed to have J9 here, although I wouldn't shove that vs. most people and I don't think 88 is much better ... but AT should certainly be worried about J9 if he's calling it off.

Lots of people ITT saying this is a cooler, but I'm not sure many of them are just shrugging and calling off 210bb river shoves with AT much here.

Blah, too long and I don't want to be editing it forever ... but 55/QQ both seem unlikely to me, so I mostly ignored them.

55 pre/turn/river seems fine but call on TT8 five ways seems so spewy he'd have to be last to act and assume PFR is just betting anything ... but then decide to ignore all of that bluffing range (or assume it gives up after getting three folds) and target overpairs or a T on turn.

QQ limp/call is lol pre. five ways and donk lead turn only makes sense if he knows what the river is.

The biggest problem with this hand is that you had to overshove on the river to get all the chips in. We should really be trying to build this pot bigger on earlier streets. In particular you should be raising the turn for value. We're nearly at top of range and villain has very few hands that beat us here. Maybe $90 bets are strong in your game and maybe $3k pots are rare, but where I play this is a raise on the turn hoping to GII and I'd also be bluff raising turn a decent percentage of the time too.

I would raise the turn. You want to start building a pot this deep with the strong parts of your range. You want to have a chance at stacking all the Tx.