preety much everyone at the table was playing chaotic and around 80% of hands. i had the tighest image at the table ( in one hand i straddled to 6, guy in front of him straddled to 12 , guy in front of him straddled to 24 . . . 2 limpers so pot was already about 100 when it came to me as initial straddler and i woke up with QQ which i pushed all in preflop, and the guy who straddled to 24 called me with 49o ... so yeah , that type of players )


1-3 nl 6 handed , villain raises CO to 12, hero has Jc7c in the button and calls, bb calls

flop comes 3c4c9s . bb checks villain bets 25 , hero calls, bb calls

turn comes a jack .bb checks villain bets 50 with around 130 - 140 behind... hero ?

do i just fold here ? is a shove ever good here ? what do i do ?

Why j7? Ap dont know sorry

Your op offers no info on the villain unless he plays exactly the same way as the person who doubled you up.
I also doubt that everyone was playing crazy as you claimed, as you got into this pot just 3-way.

So unless there is insight on V just calculate your equity in hand.. assuming j/7/flush are all good, you got 14 outs or 30%. Im never folding to $50, we just gotta decide between call or shove

Stacks would also be helpful.

Sorry forgot to mention we remained 5 handed at the point the hand was played and yes villain has the exact same maniac image. We were full ring but at about 6 am some people cashed out and we were 5 . Is my call before the flop really bad ? Should i have played the flop differently?

Villain has like 100 bb i have around 200bb and the guy in the big blind covers us both ( he's the guy who doubled me up with 49o earlier in the night )

Preflop is an easy fold. It looks like raiser only started the hand with ~$220 (just ~73bbs), so he's shortish, our hand is crap (really, it is), and we're at a wild and crazy table that could easily see a raise from one of the couple players behind us, we'll have poor relative position postflop (if raiser cbets we'll be first to act after him with others likely to react after us), etc. Position and an ~okish price don't make up for this at this type of table, imo.

I also call the flop. We're getting ok odds of 3:1 with our flush draw and would love a moron behind us to come along and pad the pot.

I think I also just call the turn. We're getting over 3:1 and could have upwards of 14 outs. We're a little concerned about guy behind us perhaps check/raising, but I don't think that overrides our play here. River might get tricky because there will be less than a PSB left. What are raiser's betting tendencies? If he's capable of bluffing into multiple opponents on multiple streets, I think I'm ok with just letting him hang himself. Otherwise, if he's more straightforward, especially in multiway pots, we unfortunately might end up with a tough river decision if he decides to 3barrel (especially if it remains 3way and we don't improve).

GcallandsoulreadtheriverG

If these players are bad enough that you can call pre-flop profitably, they are probably also bad enough that you have near 0 fold equity on a turn shove. I would call and jam every river card that hits my hand, but don't feel all that great about it.

Preflop is a trainwreck, you flopped "gin" for your hand to the river and now you are thinking about folding?

You beat bluffs, you beat bigger fds now, 9x, TT. Call or ship turn, though since you have played passively to this point I continue to just call.

It's quite possible we have the best hand right now...so often V will just be barrelling here. If this is likely, then we should just call turn and call almost all rivers as well.

I would just call with the intent of getting it in on most rivers. No reason to raise here as you don't want to fold out any pp lower than the J or potential draws/air.