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Originally Posted by paradroid12
river is a fold. rest of the hand is played standard.
I think you can fold flop or turn to larger bets but I'm not folding an overpair here to such tiny bets. there's a case for folding turn to the 2nd barrel with a player behind still to act, but I've also seen plenty of hands like this where V1 and V2 have complete garbage and JJ is the effective nuts, so I think you're definitely good the 25% of the time (20% after the call behind you) you need to be to call.
personally, I would raise/fold flop. in general I attack these small bets, so I would definitely do so with an overpair. you can still get called by Tx and skeptical pairs 77+, though I doubt a better hand folds. in a vacuum raising is a little thin, but I don't like letting these tiny bets get through in pots where I have position, so my advice to raise is more a broader strategic idea than bc you should absolutely raise JJ here.
after raising flop, when called, I am probably shutting down and trying to get to showdown.
+1 to all of this.
My immediate thought on reading the OP was "raise/fold flop". I think it's usually FPS when in position at these stakes, but if we're ever gonna do it this is the spot IMO.
$25 into a ~$150 pot OTF in this spot almost always means one of three things. From most to least common: (1) "I want to c-bet, I usually bet $25 OTF when the pot's bigger than that, so $25 it is", (2) "I feel like I should bet b/c I 3-bet pre even though my AK, or AJ, or 88 or whatever totally whiffed", (3) "I have a monster and want to milk it".
When we raise it up, group (1) will usually call, group (2) will usually fold, and group (3) will usually re-raise. We get almost a perfect read on our opponents' cards for the price of what we'd have been willing to bet anyway, and raising will often get us a free river which we can accept or decline at our leisure.
AP, you're not good here 1% of the time against 2 V's OTR. Easy fold.
