1/2 underground bar game. V just sat down, hasn't completed 1 orbit, already doubled up but I missed the action(ceiling is beautiful) seems to know some people(dealer) but I haven't seen him ever. Wednesday is their busiest day so tourney players often play cash a bit.

I had just 3bet the hand before and took it down pf after someone made it 6 and everyone on the table called.
UTG straddles.
Limp limp, V makes it 15 from the HJ, CO calls. I 3bet to 60.
V calls. Heads up.
I have JcJx
220~bbs effective
130~ in the pot
Flop Qc 5c 4x

Don't think he folds much to a 3bet pre(game is very sticky unless obvious betsizing tell that show weakness) so I can get value from 66+ and club draws (ATs, KTs 78s, 89s, T9s)
Hero bets 65. V raises to 130.

Hero?

Check the flop.

As played... you can call getting 5:1 and see what happens on the turn.

Mostly check/folding reasonable turn bets.

3bet is a bit too large imo and may narrow his range a bit.

I likely bet the one over card flop. Once he clicks it back, I would mostly fold as the min c/r is generally not a draw and your hand will rarely improve to be able to call the probable turn bet.

No doubt a tricky spot. I don't think the flop bet is terrible depending on the villain, but I think a better approach is checking behind on the flop, then evaluating the turn. Also I think the preflop bet sizing is fine give the straddles and call to the initial raise. As played, do you think he is C/min xing with worse than JJ? Doubtful. As played, fold flop.

Yeah, I actually snap called his flop raises lol. Turn is some club, the 8 or 7 I can't remember. V snap shoves all-in for around 220. Hero pukes.

Interesting, I leveled myself a little because everyone thinks AK is the only hand in the universe that 3bets pf and I thought he was just taking a stab w/ a draw. I would probably bet the turn if he just called and call a river donk bet on non A/non club or chk behind if I can OTR.

In hindsight folding flop is best. I really like my flop bet, I get floated a ton on non ace non king board in 3bet pots. People peel very light in an underground bar game.

Your plan above is one reason I would 3bet a little smaller. With the one over card/two tone flop I would like to be able to bet flop and turn if I want, and having the pot a bit smaller going to the flop 1.) keeps his range a little wider as larger 3bets pre often will narrow a villain's range (obv against a known player larger pre may be fine) and 2.) gives us a little more room to work post without getting committed to the pot.

I think the ranging you gave in your first post was extremely optimistic given your 3bet sizing and the fact we are against an unknown.

Yeah, the 8c is like the worst card possible.

I still don't like your flop bet. There are some draws, but they're not incredibly likely (and V may respond with them aggressively), and you're mostly WA/WB. I don't know if he's really peeling that light here, and the larger you build the pot on a Q54 flop holding JJ, the more likely you are to lose. You can't get much value and you can't bet every street or want to get all-in... so check the flop.