1/3 game is going about 40 minutes, starting with a bomb pot.

V1 Tight/passive, unless connected hard, then over-aggressive (known player) ~$300
V2 Been raising a lot preflop and seems over-aggressive on the flop. Asian woman about 50-60 years old. Definitely willing to gamble, but except for her overbets, I get a feeling of basic competency. ~$500
Hero has had very few hands to play, so may appear a bit nitty. Still, has seen a lot of people calling overbets preflop and on the flop. ~$500.

Action: limp, limp, v1 limp, v2 raise to $13, fold, fold, Hero re-raise to $35, fold, fold, V1 calls, V2 calls.

Pot: $106 (after drop)
Flop: Jh 8h 7c

Hero: bet $75, V1 calls, V2 raise to $175

If Hero just calls Pot will be $431, with $300 behind and V1 will be getting 4:1.

Hero?

I’m leading this flop smaller with our hand. Betting larger really narrows the range when opponents call and even though we do t have the nuts in fine seeing another street and don’t mind both players being in this pot.

As played we bet bigger which isn’t horrible at all. I probably would bet bigger with some of my range here.

V1 calls which raises an eyebrow based on your description. Does he call with 910s? I don’t think so based of my interpretation on the description. Overaggressivr when connects probably shoves here. So I’m thinking big hearts, overpaid for their range maybe AJ.

V2 raise is strong but from the profile type she’s willing to gamble. She got 910 but also hearts, sets, two pair combo draws etc.


And finally we have outs to the nuts most of the time so let’s ship it here!

Bets smaller flop. Ap ship it! In my experience it’s very rare for players to raise/fold flop.

We beat tons of value and have equity vs nuts. What could be better?

I bet 3/4 pot on the flop because of all the called overbets that had been happening over the last half hour, or so.

Given these game conditions, are you still thinking about betting 1/3 to 1/2 pot?

Really easy ship here I think.

Ship everyday of the week there. If they have 9T, then you still have a decent amount of outs against it. Anything else you're in great shape against.

There is a good argument for a larger preflop 3b here. It's hard to play JJ multi-way. I want to try to go HU against V2 if possible in position.

AP: V1 has capped himself to a draw. He has to fast-play the nuts when the turn can change the nuts pretty often. V2 can have overs and smaller sets and of course the stone nuts. We cannot let V1 draw at the correct price, so we have to ship it. It's a cooler if she has it but whatever. She doesn't sound like she can fold her QQ here either, given her propensity to overbet.

Jam the flop, hopefully she calls with a fd and it doesn't hit and I agree with the poster who said to rasie more pre from the BB. We should be at least 4x so that's 52 right there without even taking into consideration that the opening villain is "there to gamble".

Agree with most that 3Bet is small. I go 3x13+3 limps = $48 round it up to $50. You can go bigger in smaller games and people still call. On the flop you have top set and all the villains can only have a made straight, smaller sets, two pairs, pair + straight draw, pair + flush draw and flush draws. I would bet 1/3 on the pot and try to get stacks in, even if someone flopped a straight. I played nothing to do but shove.

Vs villains desribed $50 or $60 pre. Shove flop, but expect to see 109 more than people are saying. I like your flop size because of way tables been playing.

There would be $531 in the pot and V2 would get 5.3:1.

We'll see T9 a lot, that's probably the most likely hand for V2 in that spot. Especially if she raises T9o preflop.

If we're significantly deeper here, there's a case to be made to just call. With stacks the way they are, that point is moot though.

I'll admit I find preflop a little difficult as stacks get bigger. At smaller stacks, easy 3bet to commit against someone opening smallish and too wide. But at bigger stacks it becomes a bit more meh for me (especially OOP), and sometimes I just call here with no other dead money in the pot yet (although a flat here will guarantee 5way which also sets up difficult spots). Our 3bet seems on the small side, no?

SPR is ~5 against the deeper stack and ~3 against the shorter stack and we have top set, so I feel committed. Board is pretty drawy and there are a bunch of hand/action killing cards. Against overaggro postflop opponents I wouldn't hate a check/raise to setup a turn shove. Otherwise I'd PSB+ the flop to setup a turn shove. I don't think this is a board that we want to run things out over 3 streets.

As played, easy ship for me with toppest set (which could be good against a wide variety of second best hands willing to raise / commit, especially from aggros) plus big dead money.

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What’s going on with preflop? Why are we not making it much bigger OOP?

Raise more PF, bet a smaller percent of pot on the flop and this is a very easy ship.

Why would you think this would be the case for a villain who "seems over-aggressive on the flop"?

I suppose a bigger 3-bet preflop would have been better. My thinking at the time was that $35 was already an overbet and would isolate v2. Perhaps 3x the raise (plus limps and rounding) is better.

Anyway results.

Hero shoves, v1 folds immediately and v2 tanks for two minutes, then folds.

What would you expect an overly aggressive player to do here other than raise their flopped straight?

Did you really misunderstand my post that badly?

Obviously I meant she would raise lots of things, maybe everything she continues with, not only the nuts.

$40-50 pre, get it HU

once HU, 1/3 pot flop