BB has $440
Hero in CO covers

BB is a young student who seems to have been playing pretty much every day for about 6-7 months. BB just joined this table 2 hands ago
When I played with him a few months ago he was loose passive reg, havent played with him since but always see him around on other tables

I assume he perceives me as a tight reg

$1/$3


1 limper, Hero raises to $20 in CO with J/J, BTN calls $20, BB verbally announces $80 quickly, only Hero calls $60.

Flop ($200)
T36
BB bets $100, Hero folds

Folding pre seems silly, folding flop seems silly but I dont really want to stack off to his QQ+ either which might be his only range here, im not sure

Folding pre is by no means silly if you’re planning on folding flop when you flop basically as good as you can hope for, minus a set.
You basically turned your hand into a pure set mining hand, and didn’t even really have good odds to do so.
Honestly, if you’re going to just fold to a flop bet when you flop this well, folding pre is easily better than this.

Agreed. I would call flop and fold every turn villain bets gnawed isn't a J. Folding pre is better than the line hero took.

ProPokerTools Hold'em Simulation

585,607,968 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
JJ	46.88%	268,395,396	12,224,796
AA,KK,QQ,JJ,TT,AK,AQ	53.12%	304,987,776	12,224,796

With $440 effective, calling the 3! Pre is bad. For a pure set mine I would want effective stacks to be at least 1K giving us 12.5/1 to hit. You have $20 invested in this pot. Your last read was loose passive. Unless he flipped his game in the past 6 months, you are behind and it's OK to fold and move on to the next hand.

And AP calling flop and folding turn is horribad.

With that said and at this stack depth against a reg thinking player, an option is to 4! To $240 pre. Most people only do this with AA or Kk and V should know that this size bet commits them post, so they have virtually no calling range. They either jam or fold. And most times they will fold QQ- AK. Hell, not long ago a guy folded KK face up to me.

Even if they jam, again at this stack depth, we need 22% and have 20%. Close enough. When you lose to AA just grumble something about kings always running into Aces as you muck. I also think this sized bet is better than jamming ourselves because it screams value.

Again, just fold or rely on FE and 4! pre. Then the rest of the hand plays itself.

Loose-passive reg might not even 3b AK pre, and certainly isn't cbetting flop when he misses. Good fold. Folding pre could be fine, you're not getting the right odds to setmine, but given he'll play his hand straightforward postflop it's also fine to call.

So what is your plan when V checks flop?

Value bet 100 and fold to a jam, if V calls flop jam on any non A or K turn.

A student who is playing every day is likely attempting to do this for his main source of cash. If he's like most students, he's not exactly flush with cash. He's loose but passive. He just 3bet the tight reg from OOP in the blinds. I fold preflop.

I don't get to the flop but I also fold.

Gthey'renotplayingbackatme,they'renotplayingbackat me,they'renotplayingbackatmeG

students playing for income and who arent flushed with cash have their spaz moments too . Or they can start becoming spazzes haha.

Think call pre is fine though, if he’s really loose/passive/not flush with cash he wont auto cbet every board he whiffs. Fold otf is meh esp with Jc but it’s whatever.

Op Do you think he 3b AQ pre or worse?

Ha, yeah, that's fair enough. But this dude has survived the ups and downs of poker day in day out for 7 months now and has probably learned a thing or two in that time.

GcluelessyoungstudentnoobG