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04-14-2024 , 01:15 PM
1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

V1 - Just sat down. I don't have many hours with V and haven't seen him in awhile. Old ethnic man but I remember he's an idiot. The good players at the table are salivating and reminding me that he's "wild" but I don't really remember. He's talking about the times he dropped acid in Vietnam. Covers. BTN.

V2 - Loose passive asian. VPIPs close to 100% and tries to trap when he hits. Mostly irrelevant. BB. 400$.

H - Not sure of image. HJ. 900$.

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V1 straddles button to 6, V2 calls, folds to H who sees Q J and opens to 20, V1 calls, V2 calls. 3-ways 2nd to act.

Flop 60 - Q 9 8

V2 checks, Hero bets 20, V1 calls, V2 calls

Turn 120 - 4

V2 checks, Hero checks, V1 bets 120, V2 folds, Hero tanks contemplating a check-raise or a call but forgets how this V1 plays vs aggression so just calls.

River 360 (740 back) - A

H checks, V1 bets 200, Hero?
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04-14-2024 , 01:17 PM
My thinking behind the check on the turn was that I wouldn't mind just getting to showdown after I was called in two places OTF. My Q might not be good. Once he pots it my thinking was "I don't know if I'm ahead or behind here".
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04-14-2024 , 03:17 PM
I'd bet more on the flop. At least $40. I'm really struggling with these small bets. Definitely betting turn, and I don't mind a check/raise vs. this guy except for this price, but I'd rather lead myself.

River is tough. A lot of hands beat us, and his bet looks very value-heavy. Table read, but from my computer I fold. If he's truly an idiot, I guess you can sigh call.
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04-14-2024 , 04:54 PM
After you check turn he can decide to bet with so many hands we are crushing so you have to be prepared to call down a lot with top pair IMO.


River should be a good card for our range, and he should stop betting with all one pair hands and maybe even like 98 ... but bad players don't think like that and way too often decide "I bet turn, so I should keep betting".

Probably be a calling station in the moment, esp. with read that he's an idiot, but he has to be pretty special to bet Q5 or even QT here.
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04-14-2024 , 10:06 PM
This one is really close with us holding the jack and hearts i think especially since he might be a wild player. I would prefer we didnt have hearts.

Knowing hes a wild card combined with his river sizing makes me want to call. Why does he go so small on river after potting turn? Doubt he does that with the value he's representing on turn.
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04-14-2024 , 11:32 PM
Preflop ISO raise should be a little bigger to get more value versus V2 "almost 100% VPIP" whale who limped ahead of us.

Betting flop small is fine.

Checking turn is debatable. Given that V2 whale is in the hand, I would lean towards value betting turn. But if V1 is a wildcard, I guess we could check to V1 behind us at some frequency to trap him. Once V1 bets pot, I like just calling.

River is probably a call. We gave Villain a green light to start bluffing when we bet so small on flop and checked the turn. We look weak with the line that we took. There are 2 busted flush draws too.
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04-14-2024 , 11:49 PM
nh. id call river expecting to see some random hand that flopped a straight draw. river ace is pretty meaningless. so you prob won the max.

Last edited by NittyOldMan1; 04-15-2024 at 12:10 AM.
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04-15-2024 , 12:11 AM
Okay well sounds like I didnt do too much wrong.

Result:
Spoiler:
I call. He shows A 3 and scoops
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04-15-2024 , 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Okay well sounds like I didnt do too much wrong.

Result:
Spoiler:
I call. He shows A 3 and scoops
button clicker got lucky, it happens

play it the same way 100/100 times
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04-15-2024 , 06:09 AM
thx nit
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04-15-2024 , 11:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Okay well sounds like I didnt do too much wrong.

Result:
Spoiler:
I call. He shows A 3 and scoops
Ugh that is so gross
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04-16-2024 , 06:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

V1 - Just sat down. I don't have many hours with V and haven't seen him in awhile. Old ethnic man but I remember he's an idiot. The good players at the table are salivating and reminding me that he's "wild" but I don't really remember. He's talking about the times he dropped acid in Vietnam. Covers. BTN.

V2 - Loose passive asian. VPIPs close to 100% and tries to trap when he hits. Mostly irrelevant. BB. 400$.

H - Not sure of image. HJ. 900$.

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V1 straddles button to 6, V2 calls, folds to H who sees Q J and opens to 20, V1 calls, V2 calls. 3-ways 2nd to act.

Flop 60 - Q 9 8

V2 checks, Hero bets 20, V1 calls, V2 calls

Turn 120 - 4

V2 checks, Hero checks, V1 bets 120, V2 folds, Hero tanks contemplating a check-raise or a call but forgets how this V1 plays vs aggression so just calls.

River 360 (740 back) - A

H checks, V1 bets 200, Hero?
PRE - against V's like these two, I'm raising bigger than $20. At least $25. Maybe $30, because why not, with these two?

FLOP - same logic as above, I'm betting bigger. At least 2/3 pot, maybe full pot. Again, why not?

TURN - the 4d changes nothing. I might raise, if V1 is going to bet-call with any pair and any draw. I might flat call if V1 is prone to over-folding when he gets raised.

RIVER - yuck. Don't know how we can do anything but flat call now. Expecting random AX as often as 9X or 8X here.
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