^^^ lol

No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Online Poker(BB)
Live Poker (BTN/SB)

Pre Flop: Online Poker is BB
Live Poker limps ldo, Online Poker checks

Flop: ($12.00) t K 4 (2 players)
Online Poker checks, Live Poker bets PHIL IVEY, Online Poker raises to DANIEL NEGREANU, Live poker calls




Turn: Q (2 players)
Online Poker bets PHIL HELLMUTH, Live Poker calls



River: 3 (2 players)
Online Poker bets JERRY YANG, Live Poker folds



Final Pot:



Online Poker wins

Winning lotto players have us all crushed.

Instead of arguing over our differences we should unite and agree on something we all know. Cash players are better than donkament players.

boom

There must be something wrong with this hand history.
Once you bet Phil Ivey, Daniel Negreanu is no raise.

I'm not even sure why, but this made me laugh my ass off.

Apparently, the steps to beating live poker are:

1. Don't wear a hoodie.
2. Talk to people at the table.
3. Wait to get dealt the nuts.

That seems way too complicated. Online poker is clearly easier.

and what turf is that exactly??

certainly not the realm of reason and logic! that's for sure!

if you guys were on a debate squad,
how would you be faring with the
"that's stoopid, I did'nt read it all" arguments?
massive fail, IMO.
and, by the way, i never suggested that having a proper image is ALL you have to do to beat live poker. not even close.
point out where i said that.
it went from 'majority of skill', to being all and everything in your feeble little minds.
I was just trying to contribute something to a discussion.
was definatley over-reaching, tho,
what kind of intelligent discussion can you have w/ someone who's head is
so far up thier ass, they have little or no chance of ever pulling it out??

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stampler unaware that his posts ironically add more value to this thread than the meme's.

hahahaha good one

lol nice

Great pic for that, pizzle.

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on teh subject of earning action, this chat cracked me up today...


xdrew32x: let me see, you play 20 tables, no action
xdrew32x: a/q

have you guys even thought about what motivates your opponents, ever?
or do you just assume that they have the same motivations as you?

actually, have you even thought about YOUR OWN motivations??

I stample corrected.

Is this the thread that just keeping giving?

we need ot make a thread dissing mtt pros next.

im pretty sure all the negative "internet kids" these live guys stereotyp are like 98% random online mtt "pros"

+1 seriously if they're wearing a hoodie/sunglasses/headphones at 5/10+ they're probably either a live player or an mtt player and let's face it most mtt pros aren't poker players at all they're just bustos who were able to convince someone to back them.

Live poker has two forms of rakeback. The first is the $2 per hour they give you in cash credit. The second is in paper comps that the floor issues for regulars. At the Wynn this can be three meals per day and unlimited free drinks. Additionally they will call you for good games and lock seats for you/move you up the waiting list for good games.

If you eat two meals per day at the casino the comps are worth $80 to $120 per day. The "table selection service" is worth much more than that. Rake is $12 to $14 per hour at the high-stakes tables, so if you play 8 hours per day that is 100%+ rakeback.

Setting up an image in live poker is not terribly important. Most of the people playing recreationally don't know enough about poker to care about your "image" because they are only thinking about their own hand.

The skills Stampler is talking about are important, and he is correct in comparing poker players to salesmen. Part of the game (sales or poker) is being a friendly person who is pleasant to interact with. If everyone is dead silent and acting like a robot, it is a less pleasant environment for the retired CEO and he will pick up and leave. If everyone is jovial and he is enjoying himself, he will reload. The skill is in being friendly; the CEO will not care if you are a giant nit, he won't be able to tell if you are playing 48% or 18% of your hands.

QFT.

I don't think you could be more wrong about this. No offense.

Coming from someone who has played live and online for about 5 years straight, I think that image in live poker is a huge consideration. Sure, people just play their own hands in medium to big pots, but there are so many other spots that your image helps you/hurts you.

A tight image can literally allow you to get away with murder in a live game, and a loose one will see you getting stacks in against really weak hands. In a live game, I feel like the effects of image are raised to a large degree. I can't tell you how many times people have made HUGE assumptions about someones play after only a half hour of play, which is a round 15-18 hands. "That guy is so tight" "That guy plays every hand!""