needs more love imo

OMFG THIS!

is this because you believe he has more combos of those hands than Ax that raised pf? OR because you think that Ax would have put in additional action at some point?

I can buy the second argument (although I dont necessarily agree with it) but the first argument seems to hinge not on what he gets to the river with, but what is his river calling range. and I just don't imagine that villain is going to call with the vast majority of the hands we beat, but he's always going to call with everything that beats us. so it might be very close even if we think he's way more likely to have pkt pairs than Ax.

I just woke up and havent reread OP, so there may be something I'm missing that you caught.

Seems like all these "live pros" don't know what "results oriented" means

the line read is i can't believe some internet kid would open limp with Ax (although OP's claim he limped and not raised with JJ throws off the read). the historical live read is i see people do this exact thing all the time, and will hero call the river with any reasonable pair.

?? I played hand 1 great/perfectly. Hand 2 Meh/bad. and hand 3 I was caught in a horrible spot and made the CORRECT "standard play". None of this has anything to do with results.

LOL at hand 1 being perfect, and lol at hand 3 being a horrible spot

Yeah seriously this how can you possibly think 3 is a bad spot should be fistpump getting it in against someone you perceive as aggro.

I think you are right. The late open limp is often a big pp looking for action. I usually only see this from old bad nits though, not young LAGs...

I think op meant hand 3 was a horrible cooler- not a horrible spot.

And someone pls reveal the most optimal line for the A5 hand/why op's line was lol bad. Thx.

He definitely did not mean that...reread his post

And because the A5 was pure spew, obviously? I mean, even with the "right" read, he still only had what, 70% equity?

Is this a level?

No, but you have to be levelling for sure. He checked a big draw twice, which still had 30% equity...clearly, he's capable of checking JT+ twice as well, which have way, way more equity

Of course i meant it was a cooler. If I thought I was in a horrible spot w/ the AK why did i snap shove on the guy??? Use your brain 2nd chance or you wont get a third chance.

I hate those 70% equity spots. Theyll be the death of me.

I did fistpump get it in as said in the OP. The horrible spot was him showing up w/ aces and then telling me how he know i would spew off my money. I just wanted to make sure I was thinking correctly about the hand, which I was, isnt that what 2p2 is all about?

Because you posted the hand, and then said right above that it was a "horrible spot", when it was a dream situation?

They will be, when over half of the time you get called you'll have 10% or less equity

This further proves you don't know what "results oriented" means, as was stated by me above

Your responses are really douchy and not well thought out but Ill make one more attempt to be logical with you.

Everyone on here has said my initial turn bet was lolobad, horrible, gay, reps nothing, etc...So how often does a good aggressive player bluff raise someone who makes a bet as terrible as mine? a lot I would bet. And how often is this raising range made up of hands he didnt mind giving a free card with? a lot I would bet. And what type hands do you not mind GETTING/giving a free card with? better, warmer, closer. You seem to think a big draw is the equiv of top two when it comes to giving unlimited free cards, this thought process is flawed. The vast majority of villains CR range here is draws and flat out bluffs w/ far less than 30% equity.

Except he's clearly not good, and not thinking on this level, judging from his play with the hand...but keep thinking people play like you want them to play; it's not a leak at all...and keep being results oriented

If were both horrible arent we thinking on the same level?

Obviously not?

K, well now it seems you are being a bit results oriented ("he checked a big draw twice..."). When the hand was played all op knew was that IK was aggro and had it out for him. His flat the button open, check flop 3-way with a spot in between him and op, check turn again, and then finally raise op's not-so-expected-bet line reps VERY little with regards to big made hands. Op read the situation correctly (his analysis in the op is spot on imo) and made the right play against IK's range. Doesn't matter what IK ended up turning over.

Also, I don't think the turn bet was bad or homosexual, just thin.

Except plenty of made hands check twice here, and in reality it's only checking once since the first check is 100% standard. Moreover, his shove combined with his check on the flop reps far, far less than any check raise by the internet kid.