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Interesting spot (?) w/ JJ in the BB at 1/2 live Interesting spot (?) w/ JJ in the BB at 1/2 live

02-18-2015 , 04:34 PM
9-handed 1/2 live game at my local charity room. Sitting on ~$420, villain has ~$350. Really loose game, which is pretty standard. Standard open is $9-$12. Lots of players like to see flops.

Preflop: MP2 opens for $7, HJ calls, CO calls, BTN (villain) calls, BB (hero) raises JJ to $44, MP2 folds, HJ folds, CO folds. BTN tanks for like a minute and flats.

Flop: 278

Hero continues for $77, BTN stares hero down and tanks for like a minute and flats

Turn: Q

Thinking villain has broadway hearts, straight draws/flush draws, some 78s, some 777, 888; never QQQ, never AhQh; thinking probably 99, MAYBE TT??? Don't really want to bet and get jammed on, but don't really think I'm beat all that often; want to check and see what villain does. Read on villain with all his tanking and staring is that posturing.

Hero checks, villain stares down and tanks for a bit then bets $110. Hero?
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02-18-2015 , 04:40 PM
ch/r AI
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02-18-2015 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TKO121
ch/r AI
Yeah, this was my play.
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02-18-2015 , 04:46 PM
Hard to say here without any reads on Villain.

My decision on the turn would be straight based in Villain type. Assuming I have zero reads on anyone, I'd probably just fold. We are out of position, we have no idea what to do on the river, any heart, 6, J, puts us in a bad position again on the river to check then ?

It does suck to fold, which easily could be the best hand, but with zero reads, and no position, I'm probably just folding.
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02-18-2015 , 04:49 PM
We know nothing about V ... Hard to determine to c/c or b/f in this spot without V information. But I think it's more likely you want to b/f OOP on Turn. Keep the pressure on and don't give a free draw to a flush.

Unless you are willing to c/c Turn AND also all non-A/K/heart Rivers, then it's OK to c/c Turn IMO.

I want to reduce the number of Turn bluffs from this guy when OOP by leading out on Turn (controlling the bet size) unless I have a super read and then I can c/c or c/f the River based on my read (which I dont have).

Do you have the image to c/r all-in here? You are going to get called 'quite' often IMO giving 2 to 1 in a 1-2 game. The Turn is the place to do this .. there is only ABC poker left on the River since V has a PSB behind and all the cards are out. GL
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02-18-2015 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by answer20
We know nothing about V ... Hard to determine to c/c or b/f in this spot without V information. But I think it's more likely you want to b/f OOP on Turn. Keep the pressure on and don't give a free draw to a flush.

Unless you are willing to c/c Turn AND also all non-A/K/heart Rivers, then it's OK to c/c Turn IMO.

I want to reduce the number of Turn bluffs from this guy when OOP by leading out on Turn (controlling the bet size) unless I have a super read and then I can c/c or c/f the River based on my read (which I dont have).

Do you have the image to c/r all-in here? You are going to get called 'quite' often IMO giving 2 to 1 in a 1-2 game. The Turn is the place to do this .. there is only ABC poker left on the River since V has a PSB behind and all the cards are out. GL
Should have included in my original post that I had pretty strong live read that when he tanks and staredowns he doesn't have it. Pretty confident with this read. With that said, is there any value in x/jamming the turn? BASED ONLY ON THE LIVE READ, or should I be calling?

EDIT: just reread your post and saw you answered this. Thx for the feedback

Also, wondering whereabouts in MI you are? I play in Grand Rapids and Traverse City.

Last edited by thr4symachu5; 02-18-2015 at 05:08 PM.
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02-18-2015 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thr4symachu5
Should have included in my original post that I had pretty strong live read that when he tanks and staredowns he doesn't have it. Pretty confident with this read. With that said, is there any value in x/jamming the turn? BASED ONLY ON THE LIVE READ, or should I be calling?

EDIT: just reread your post and saw you answered this. Thx for the feedback

Also, wondering whereabouts in MI you are? I play in Grand Rapids and Traverse City.
Almost all FD will call your ch/r AI.
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02-18-2015 , 05:49 PM
Based on your live read I don't really want to jam here since we miss out on River bluffs and his calling range narrows IMO.

We have a good showdown hand (and an already decent sized pot). So based on your live read I am willing to c/c both Turn and River and see a showdown if the River is 'safe'. If not 'safe', then you have to go with your River read if it is the same as before. GL
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