So Hero is playing 5/5 with $750 stack. Villian 1 around $1000 and Villian 2 around $400. I'm on the button with AsKh, V1 is UTG and V2 is UTG+1. This was a very soft table, lots of limped pots and some crazy showdowns. V1 had gone all in previously 4x. Once with a flush draw (which he hit vs V2's set), and twice with 2 pair, one on a board that was 789 (he had 78). The last all in was vs me and he never showed, because I flipped over my set prematurely and he mucked on As7h3s board (I had 7x7s). The hand as follows:

Hero has AsKh on button.

Preflop - limp, limp, folds to me who raises $25. Folds to V1 who calls and V2 calls.

Flop ($85) AdKc2h, V1 check, V2 checks. I bet $45, V1 calls, V2 folds.

Turn ($175) Tc, V1 check, Hero bets $100, V1 goes all in, Hero???



I found this to be a weird spot based on the table history. A big red flag is he's shoving another ~$600 on top to win a $275 pot, which smells pretty polarized to value nutted hands like QJ, TT or on the other side of the pole a backdoor flush draw like AcXc. Based on his history there is also the possibility he is doing it with A2 or AT, even KT wasn't impossible as he has shown he is quite comfortable calling with rags pre flop. I think if he 22 he doesn't raise so much because he has more time to think how to extract value. The raise shove felt impulsive and he was shaking when he did it (what's your experience in an opponent that is shaking when they're putting their chips in?)

I think if I have Ace of clubs it's probably an easy fold, given we lose a whole bunch of combos that we are ahead of. Vs a tight player we probably just fold, Live players - what would you do in this spot?

Pre I would raise to 35 there

vs this guy it's 580 more, and the pot is 275. Would he do this with AT? We know he should have at least two pair, possibly turned a draw but would he flat a gutter otf? He's raising sets otf imo. I call vs him

There's just no world where we fold here unless some extremely concrete reads that he always has us beat.


Ac isn't a huge deal since V is obviously capable of jamming AT, KT, A2s and K2s. As well as QcXc. AQ, KQ and QT as well.

I would discount TT a bit as it should probably fold flop. Also discount 22 some as it can probably raise flop some.

Pre I would go 30 o er 2 limpers. What do you think his limp calling range is? ATo? A9s and lower? QJo? Does he raise QJs and TT for that matter? KTs?

I lean towards calling. But if he isn't value owning himself with ATo and he has QJo, then this is probably a fold.

I definitely think he can be value owning himself a lot here. V1 flipped over QJo for the nuts. I didn't feel I could get away from this particular villian in this particular spot but am interested if there's any other thoughts I need to consider.

Limp-call pre and check-call that flop with QJo is just awful.
No way you could fold imo.

Meh, it is just hard to value own himself when you can easily have AK. If you think he is more likely than not to to this with when he had worse 2p or top pair+ nut flush draw, then you have to call.

I do recall playing a hand vs a whale super deep at 5/5/10/20 where he called my raise from the button straddle. I flopped 2 pair with A4 on AK4. Turn comes a 7 bringing in backdoor hearts and he raises my bet. Hearts get there on river and he bombs. I sigh call and he has K4o. "Damn, I thought you had AQ or AJ."

So I mean there are whales like this out there where you just have to call.

Guy binked a large tournament then played super lag for a while with the winnings. Ran pretty good for a few weeks, then lost 15k in one session at 5/5 (big straddled game). Saw him play 1/2 a week later and haven't seen him since.

That kind of player is pretty rare though and they seem to get eaten up and leave afyer a while, or they are a business owner with steady passive income they are okay torching.

This player was a rich Asian guy who played very loose. In my location most of the asian guys play very loose and don't speak English.

So were the guys in my post lol.