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11-19-2013 , 02:32 PM
7 handed £1 £2 NLHE.

villain is young looking half asian English guy and has sat down with a £5k chip which covers the table, LDO. he is also talking about moving to the 5 5 and saying people rock up there too much, to his friend. another player walked by and said he was "a talented player"

seen one hand where he donked into a fish (that raised pre) with a flush draw. he hit and got quite good value cos of the donk and i thought it was a pretty good play.

Hero MP £500.

a shortstack raises to £10 from UTG +1, i call with QT

villain calls out the SB, 3 way to the flop.

896

villain leads for £23, UTG+1 calls, HERO calls.

turn 2

villain checks, UTG+1 shoves for £77ish

i call, villain calls. pot £302

river J

villain checks.

i bet £150.

villain shoves.

HERO?
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11-19-2013 , 02:43 PM
Pretty gross spot. How fast did he shove? Has he been barreling off/super active? It's not much more to us and main pot is so big, in heat of moment I'm probably calling.

That being said, there's not much of a sidepot so I don't expect him to be bluffing here often, esp since it's conceivable for you to have some 8xhh/7xhh in your range. Don't think he's ever shoving worse, e.g. T7/sets/2p. He can have all 12 combos of QTo though. If he tank shoves I'm always calling. If he snap shoves in <4s I'm puke folding
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11-19-2013 , 02:57 PM
about 8 seconds. he has not been super active, no. medium-ish.
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11-19-2013 , 03:20 PM
fold pre and fold turn. ez game.

Problem with pre is the original raiser is short stacked and you have a RIO hand versus his range without a better read here. You can't call a $10 raise with QTss with only $100 more behind.

Turn, your equity is cut in half, and UTG is clearly ahead of you now with, at best, you drawing to 10 outs. You have no clue that villain is calling behind you to help your equity out. And, if he calls, you aren't picking up that much equity; in fact, he may block some of your outs.

You should never have seen this river card.

Personally, V's line is a draw a lot of the time when he check/calls turn like that. He figured you were drawing too with your c/c c/c line and he let you lead the river. That should scare you.

Also V's call pre is likely to draw against you. He really shouldn't have checked the turn with a value hand, either, once you two both call the flop.
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11-19-2013 , 04:03 PM
true, if i'm honest, randomly the shortstack was my old boss who i f**king hate and haven't seen in years but was playing in this casino so just wanted to stack him.

lesson learned that stupid small decisions get you into much bigger tricky decisions.

the key part of the hand is, you're right, the check call by him on the turn. my thinking was he seemed to be a very good player and might put me on the bare ten after he checked and then decided to try and shove me off it as he had a lot of money.

i as usual, called too quick and he had QhTh. pretty disgusting river added to the fact he had the savvy to check where vast majority of players lead out i feel.
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11-19-2013 , 11:52 PM
Fold turn

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11-20-2013 , 12:17 AM
Fold pre against the short stack.

Fold turn.

Eh, probably call river. He could be value-owning with worse straights or we could be chopping.
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