There is no strategy in here. This is a troll you have spent many hours of your life on. This is not a real thread. You are here to **** with people. You should be banned.

thanks for bumping larry, strategy will be the last word from me

interesting that MP1 called with Q9s, it's a hair light....his calling range should start with QTs and he should pitch Q9s pre flop and he's the one who won the hand, and shows that c/r the flop is no better than 0ev, we are only targeting AQs and Q9s which he should not have and QTs crushes us, so c/r flop was the high variance play which almost got him to fold top pair bad kicker

so i had a physical tell that he didn't have AQs because he made a move to muck his cards but then took a second look at the board and made a reluctant call, also the check on the turn was because he could be outkicked, i'm lucky he didn't show up with QTs when i c/r the flop which looks in retrospect not that great especially when UTG was a caller


anyway if he hadn't called pre our eq bumps up to around 48%, assuming the button still calls pre, good enough to always raise

Great analysis. Tell us more

Feels like a troll at this point lol, can we report him or smg?

Lol if it’s a troll it’s getting well fed by the people complaining about it.

I get the feeling OP is trying to write a TV pilot for a show that is half Psych and half Rounders and using the forum to help him. Being a writer, he is a narcissist who doesn't take criticism. That makes as much sense as anything OP has written here.

yeah one has to wonder what exactly they are getting out of it when they could just ignore the post and let it go off the front page

i got a lot out of this thread, literally was not going to post it, i had already forgotten about the hand until the ironic Q rolled off, the only thing that really annoyed me was the extra tanking before v bet, this is not hollywood dude!

weird that people are assaulting my character for playing bad poker, what chance do other people have posting here when your actual character and mental health are assaulted just for disagreeing with a play made in a game. The people i play with are nice and never assault my character about the way i choose to play my cards, so what i'm guessing is that the trolls ITT don't even play

live reads helped me here and also the table talk after the hand made me confident i made the right fold but i didn't need those to figure out what they had, in fact, we basically knew what they had pre, the most important point of the hand is that UTGs card value went down from QQ approx to JJ approx the moment i looked at my hand, and he almost certainly had that exact hand, so when raising this pre you can actually assume he has that exact had whether or not he actually has it, this is the quantum way of looking at it, rather than saying his combos of AK are greatly reduced, we can alternatively say his hand value went down, and it's the same analysis

No one talks like this in real life. It is amazing you have so many people that believe that there is a chance you arent ****ing around with all your posts. So congratulations. Keep it going. Good discussion

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also, for the physics students

notice the similarity between the pre flop action and the EPR paradox, if we look at it the quantum way, and say that the average hand value is equal to the hand value on every hand (we can actually assume UTG has JJ 100% of the time)

before we looked at our cards, his hand value was closer to QQ, and we assume IT IS QQ, now we look at our cards and his hand value reduced to JJ (spooky action at a distance)

so our raise size targets JJ specifically and we don't want it to fold but we never get re-raised that is why the pre flop sizing has to be precise

I know that one equilibrium is 0 and now i know the other is 400, which i couldn't think of on the fly but another poster did, so he wins the thread not me

Yes for the physics students. Lets keep this discussion going. They want to hear more about that. Can you write up a few more paragraph

that being said there are 2 raise sizes that are 0ev and we can just about decide what would have happened just for fun

those who raised to 500 scooped without showdown
those who raised to 400 got called by UTG for sure and it went 5 way and v might've folded the flop since you repped an overpair but doubt UTG would have folded because he knows me and i make wierd plays
those who raised to 325 may have just decided to shove the flop and gotten villain to fold
those who called and checked raised got a lot of money in the pot ahead and zero behind

you see that all these plays are 0ev at best?

Yes. Tell us. More

Are the mods asleep? This thread should have been locked days ago.

As you wish.