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I think I understand what you are trying to say, but I think this will be confusing to a lot of people.

65s is not a better hand than QJs.

Maybe in certain spots 65s intersects with ranges in a better way, and is more deceptive ... but robots certainly prefer QJs over 65s and you should have very good reasons for not doing so as well.

Yeah, my post wasn't entirely accurate. QJs is generally better in unopened pots and as a 3bet. However, facing a 3bet 65s is often better when at least 100bb deep. QJs tends to be a 0 EV mix of call fold while 65s tends to be a pure call with low EV, even though 65s when opened is sometimes 0 EV - a mix between open raise and open fold. I really QJs is a better hand, but against the uncapped ranges generally 65s is better.

65s is definitely better than 98s though.

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08-30-2023 , 09:30 PM

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AAJTo

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Originally Posted by Solving Live Poker

One of the most perpetuated myths in poker: suited connectors are good/better multiway.

They are absolute garbage overcalling unless you're in the BB (and the open raise isn't something like 5x or more).

You either want to be raising them, or at minimum calling in late portion (CO and BTN) when you're likely to go heads up. Multiway.....you're not going to flop or run out big enough hands to overcome the RIO as well as all the check/folding you'll have to do.

Start folding those suited connectors instead of overcalling them multiway, and your win rate will thank you later.

Ya I use small sc's more as a "I hope I hit a straight" type hand with the flush being a backup that I dont overplay if it hits if were talking multiway limp or srp. I like sc's more as a 3bet hand HU when deep otherwise Im probably folding pre.

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08-31-2023 , 05:24 AM

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Stupidbanana

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thanks for the advice everyone

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09-01-2023 , 01:11 AM

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javi

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If you're looking for a quick n' dirty way to plug a big leak almost everyone has, stop calling 3bets. Like all of them. Just dont play vs a 3bet ever, unless you're getting the sickest of odds with a deep stack and multiple bad opponents, and even then the RIO start to work against you since you cant feel great getting it in with QJs with 4 players happily shipping their stacks into the middle.

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09-04-2023 , 03:19 PM

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larry the legend

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Originally Posted by javi

Seems way too broad and general to plug a leak. I think people in general do call too wide, but there are so many situations where folding to a 3b would be a leak at these stakes.

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