I just couldn't find a c/f on the river...I tried and sighed but still put the chips in the middle...anyone would play this hand any differently???

Villain: tons of history, she's pretty loose PF, chases draws with complete disregard to pot odds and stuff..high stakes blackjack player, gambler, 3 buy ins at 1-2 is like one hand in blackjack for her, over-values big pocket pairs etc. (just a bit over 200)

Hero: I'm reasonably sure that she respects my game after I called a huge bet from her on the river with K high sometime ago..she hasn't been bluffing or playing too out of line with me since..(covers)

PF:
5 dollar Straddled pot, 6 limpers to hero with AK raises to 60, villain in the straddle cold calls 60, everyone else folds.

I know her game enough to know that it is always a pocket pair below QQ(she stacks off PF with those always), but above 88 or 99

Flop: (150)

A 10 2

Hero checks., villains checks back.

I don't know if I like a jam here cuz we are never getting called by worse..I don't know..I think the play here is worth some discussion..

Turn: (150)

Q

obviously we are never folding here, villain had about 150 behind at this point..hero bets 100, villain calls leaving 50 behind...wow

I know, I didn't shove, but is there any difference between betting 100 and shoving?

River: (350)

3

villain had 50 behind, hero's hand beats absolutely nothing after villain called the turn..

I just couldn't find a c/f..I don't know how am I ever good here one in 9 times?? anyone??

No difference in shoving or betting 100$ OTT.

Flop play is horrible, you need to learn to get creative with bet sizing. Don't just think shove/check. Learn to bet the amount you know you will get called by or shoved on. Not betting accomplish's none of that. OTT I would bet 75$, you bet a 100$, you committed yourself with that bet. River is a blank and no way I'm folding.

C bet flop, bet/f turn, bet/ fold river

cant really fold on river do to your sizing

wow, pot is 150, effective stacks are 140, u flop top pair, top kicker on a super dry board and ever think of folding this hand?

If you don't think this is a slam dunk vbet you shouldn't have bet the turn.

"I don't know if I like a jam here cuz we are never getting called by worse" , if you are worried about that , why 60 pf on a 1-2 game? was the table playing that deep?
as played, you should have bet the flop, you already got 25% of her stack if she folds. , as played your turn bet is fine, but you cant ever fold a shove or a bet on the river for 50 dollars in a 400 dollar pot. with tptk

First off I have to think her range is wider than specifically JJ/TT. Even if it is that, we are still a favorite in the hand with the T on the flop. Why check and give her a free shot at spiking a J unless you know a flop check will induce bluffs?

Anyways you have a villain who is loose preflop and chases draws regardless of the odds. She likes to gamble so let her. I would shove because all you have is a psb left and I think $140 gets called roughly the same amount of time that $70 does.

no c-bet otf? lol, 75-100 bet otf imo

does villian check back a pair of Aces?

villian can have anything from pair+gutters like k10,KQ to Aj,or J10s but im not sure.

this is a fairly easy call as villains hand looks like a draw..which it usually is 80% of the time.

I bet something on the flop, why check? Styles vary, but I don't get this one at all. Maybe just me.

$60 preflop at 1/2 (even with a $5 straddle)? Was this a crazy action table or super deep stacks? I definatly bet flop. As played I just jam the river, its only $50 into $350.

Grunch: The hand is really 40bb effective preflop, i think u need to raise alittle bit less pre, but since she called the 60$ then 60$ is good, u flopped great, just cbet...u actually should cbet 100% of the time in this spot...i'm not sure if u checked for a) balance, b) being trappy, c) no reason....but the flop play is bad....as played just jam the turn really

UGH are you serious? Couldn't get away from this hand? You better never ever get away from this hand here, ever, never, ever. Did I mention never? This is going to sound harsh but you need a swift kick in the pants if this is how you are thinking!

SPR is 1 for fuxx sake, who cares what she has You have TPTK AK in a 1 SPR pot! Shove/bet/get it in on flop, faster if possible lol(or turn if you insist on betting only like $75 on flop). You bet 60 pre, why would you hesitate to bet 140 post against someone who will actually pay you to "chase all her draws" and doesn't care about money. Now all of a sudden she wouldn't call you with anything worse? What did someone else take over her hand? I'm not even willing to "put her on a range" because it is so insanely profitable to just shove here.

Bet flop

I'd bet Arrrr in on flop and let her decide what stupid hand she's gonna call with. You are never wrong here with this line!

PS I know she had you beat this time but that's just being totally results oriented. Take this line like a hundred times vs her and "make it rain" money.

BTW I would take this same line vs her w/ AA KK QQ and also AK if I miss the flop if I got 1/3 stack in preflop because I am pot committed anyway and I might even get folds. DUCY why this line is still profitable even on a miss if you have any decent fold equity post flop?

Oh and never, ever, ever, fold here. Never.

How can you say b/f on any street? Based on stack sizes and the hero saying he's "sure" villain has a PP lower than QQ, it is a instashove OTF. Or at least OTT

this, why a 60 pre flop raise? unless the game is super deep , my opening raises go from 7-12 , maybe 13-15 from utg , i know that is on the very low end of raises, but i dont see the point of making it 60 preflop.

60 preflop is fine if he gets calls from her marginal hands and then just shoves flop every time. Hey this isn't just 1 hand, he can do this with QQ+ and AK or just QQ+ and only AKs and print money vs this player that he obviously plays often.

I'm a bit lazy to stove it now but it is printing money with both those ranges vs her range even if there is zero fold equity, which I doubt.

grunching

Cbet flop every time...I probably bet 75 on this flop. I think you raised to much pre with AK.

I'm never folding to another 50 here as played.

c bet the flop for how much? 75? and if villain ships then what? snap call? villain had one pot size bet left? money's gonna go in on the flop or turn no matter what..

Here's my problem, on the flop we are not getting value from anything!! it's a way ahead way behind spot, if villain's got 99 or JJ, she's got a 2 outter, if villain's got TT, we are drawing dead and given the stack sizes how can we bet 75 and fold to a ship...turn card brings us a royal draw..obviously it's never a bet fold..but on the river we beat nothing that villain flatted us on the turn with..

anyways, villain had TT and life goes on

I don't understand how you can think that. Villain can never have AQ or AJ? A gutshot? You said she is pretty loose preflop and she chases draws despite the odds she's getting. Does she play totally different against you than she does the rest of the table?

The bottom line is your preflop raise created an SPR of 1. You flopped top pair top kicker on a dry flop heads up. Unless villain flipped over her cards before you act, folding anywhere postflop would be a monetary disaster.

Snap call a shove..I bet 75 hoping she shoves and I Cbet all flops heads up so why change here. Based on read of villain I'm trying to play for her stack with tptk

ye, but the villain's not crazy enough to call a bet there with JJ or 99, our perceived range by her is AK, which is why she called off 1/3 of her stack PF with TT, then it's rare we are getting paid when there's an A on board

Sheesh this is frustrating. Why post if you won't listen to, well, everyone in this thread who tells you you can't fold here?

First she can't put you on exactly AK. You can have QQ, KK, AA even JJ. She called to set mine, not because "lawls I know he has AK. I'll call to trap him". How will she call you w 2 overcards, 1 overcard, no overcards when you bet/shove etc when the 8 out of 9 times she doesn't flop set??

Honestly you are totally misusing WA/WB concept here too. It doesn't apply here. SPR is 1.

Money has to go in. All of it. Bet 75 flop/call or shove either is fine. She took a line calling 1/3 of her stack getting 6-1 implied odds to set mine and she wouldn't even realize those odds because you would have folded if you missed(wrongly I think). She has just hideous odds for the call she made. What does she do when a Q74 flop comes and you bet flop? What does she do when you have KK and flop is J82 and you bet? QQ and flop QT3? AA and flop 963? Do you see where I'm going with this? This is not one hand. It is your future range vs her and you are printing money!

I wouldn't necessarily agree that as played you can't fold here. It depends on reads. My only point is if you are even thinking about not getting the money in here you did something very wrong earlier in the hand.

Grunch

What are you doing on the flop? She's a station! Value bet here!

There is nothing to discuss about the river because it should have been all in way before that.

Also how are you ever folding even one pair against a maniac getting like 7 to 1 on your money OTR?

You seem way to results oriented to listen to people giving you good advice. There is plenty of good dialogue in this thread, I just hope you learn.

$60 preflop with AK is a bit high imo, it still worked though as you got someone to call, as played get it in