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I am being targeted at my tables, now what should I do? I am being targeted at my tables, now what should I do?

03-30-2011 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
ahhhh, 30 pot and we open shove 200 into several players with 55? Or did we just lean forward and spill the 200 in chips toward the pot and the dealer make it stay as a bet?

hearing that, i just extrapolate (forgive me if you played perfect outside of this play), on out to where there was all sorts of non-thinking spew.


30x5 so $150 in the pot and I have $200 left.
03-30-2011 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcpepper12
I have a ???? what do you buy in for. Be honest. If you have a problem with old nits who limp call. Thats a problem. When the flop comes I can usually narrow there hands down massivly

1/2 I always have a full stack. At 2/5 I have been buying in for $400 and amx is $500.
03-30-2011 , 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by cap217
30x5 so $150 in the pot and I have $200 left.
The bigger issue here is putting $30 of your $230 into a pot OOP with 5-5.
03-30-2011 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BigSkip
The bigger issue here is putting $30 of your $230 into a pot OOP with 5-5.
OK, this I can understand. I was the BB here too so I had that in.
03-31-2011 , 11:31 PM
ok guys...

I played tonight and lost 3 buy ins... Get this hand:

I am on the button w AdQd and someone makes it $7 and 3callers then CO makes it $30. I call, BB calls, everyone else folds.

Flop 8d6d3d. BB checks, CO bets $45 and I go to raise but BB raises for $250. I call CO calls and I shove for $50 more. I am in vs KK and 79o. I LOST!

Then I lost with 3 set over sets and a flush over flush. KK vs AA and AK4 flop.

Heres a hand I thought I played perfect. QQ on button and make it $25 and get 2 callers. Flop 843 and its checked to me. A short stack with $108 in the hand and I get a cound and I bet $54 and blind calls and short stack shoves. I shove blind folds. VS J8 and a J on the turn!



Guys, what can I do? Just quit? I dont think I am playing bad at all.
04-01-2011 , 12:01 AM
In the first hand you should have folded preflop, but the last hand is just bad luck.
04-01-2011 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by crsseyed
It sounds like you have an attitude problem here (no offense). You're letting bad luck/running bad affect you. You're reads/plays are fine.

Take a break from poker and come back strong.
/agree
04-01-2011 , 05:29 AM
Rebuy?

You posted some coolers and now you are questioning your ability. Keep grinding, 10 BI downswings (or worse) happen all the time in live poker.
04-01-2011 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by cap217
But with these people who limp 2 and call $35 I have trouble with...

...I am seen as an aggro crazy player.
Sounds like the perfect set-up to me. Do whatever you can to reinforce this image as cheaply as you can, then sit back and wait for the deck to smack you in the face. Long term you should be crushing this game.
04-01-2011 , 06:13 AM
+1 to the person who said take a break from cards. I try to take a break every couple months and it helps a lot. Not just a day or 2, but a week minimum.
04-01-2011 , 10:21 AM
Its hard to take a week off but I am going to do it this time. Watch some videos and read a little. Go back on friday next week.
04-01-2011 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cap217
ok guys...

I played tonight and lost 3 buy ins... Get this hand:

I am on the button w AdQd and someone makes it $7 and 3callers then CO makes it $30. I call, BB calls, everyone else folds.

Flop 8d6d3d. BB checks, CO bets $45 and I go to raise but BB raises for $250. I call CO calls and I shove for $50 more. I am in vs KK and 79o. I LOST!

Then I lost with 3 set over sets and a flush over flush. KK vs AA and AK4 flop.

Heres a hand I thought I played perfect. QQ on button and make it $25 and get 2 callers. Flop 843 and its checked to me. A short stack with $108 in the hand and I get a cound and I bet $54 and blind calls and short stack shoves. I shove blind folds. VS J8 and a J on the turn!



Guys, what can I do? Just quit? I dont think I am playing bad at all.
It is obvious that you are a poker noob.

Coolers happen, bad beats happen, you can do everything 100% correct and still be a loser by the end of the night.

My worst downswing was losing 20 situations in a row in which I was 80%+ to win with one card coming and I lost. Not, once, not twice, but 20 times in a row. Did that mean I was doing something wrong?

No. In each situation I got the monies in when I was an 80%+ favorite with one card to come. I calculated the probability of losing 20 hands in a row (over a period of a week) when being a 80% favorite was 9 x 10^-27. Talk about improbable. And to put that in perspective, there are players that have gone MONTHS with this sort of bad luck. My little one week of soul crushing variance is NOTHING compared to what others have experienced. And no matter how well I play, I will experience the same downswing again and again. It is just the way the math works. It is inevitable.

Google "Poker Variance" and "Poker Coolers" and read until you answer your own questions.

If you cannot grasp what variance means, then you will be unable to be a longterm winning player.
04-01-2011 , 02:54 PM
I am not a new player. I just have been running so bad for 2 months and these things keep happening.... It just gets depressing.
04-01-2011 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cap217
I am not a new player. I just have been running so bad for 2 months and these things keep happening.... It just gets depressing.
That's why I'm going to lock this up. Running bad happens.

What I do see hints of is that when you run bad, you start trying to make things happen for you. You over shove with 3rd pair. You call a 3bet with AQs.

I do this and lots of others do it too. We shouldn't and have to work on it. Sometimes, I start guessing games as to how many hands I can fold in a row. I try to look at only losing $21 in an hour as a positive thing, because if I hadn't folded, I would have lost more.

What I'm going to work on this weekend is to let poker hands come to me, rather than make poker hands work for me. If I raise $30 pf, get 3 callers, hit on the flop and get folds, that's two hours profit. I can wait for those situations. What costs me money is three barreling with a marginal hand. That costs 4 hours or more profit.
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