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Originally Posted by cstevens
If I flat doesn't mean we see a turn necessarily. Action will be over to btn he might do something stupid and sb might think he's good cause my hand looks like a draw if I flat so he might do all the work for me?
This has a very low chance of happening.
Button already only has $550 left so if you flat and btn flats the button is effectively already all-in. Flatting vs all-in doesnt make a difference for button, but it does make a difference vs SB. Shoving gets you all of SB's money.
If you think SB might fold AA if you shove, you can also reraise something silly. Make it 1350 or something to shove the turn, in which case it'll be 1000 left on the turn into a 3500 pot.
Shove is fine. raise is fine. flat is worst. actually, you wouldn't even get to reraise if you flat and button shoves.
edit - also, fold pre vs call pre is a nitpicky topic imo, theres not THAT much difference in EV, if calling is -EV its only by a little bit. (i prefer to fold, but if sb is bad enough to only have QQ+, calling is fine imo)