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Old 10-12-2021, 03:19 PM   #1
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How to play in this unusual configuration

Hey guys

Wanted to see if anyone could give me advice on this.
I just sat down at 2/5 with 500. Got dealt 10d10s
Before me there was a raise to 15 and 3bet to 50 - I decided to call IP, the other player folded
Flop Jd 6h 4d check check
Turn Ad, he bets about half pot , I call
River 8s , now he put me all in -its about 1.6 to 1, I fold

Was completely unsure what to do.

I ran it with Pio, he said folding river is kind of ok, as I d have better hands with the range I play this way.
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:30 PM   #2
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

You have AK/AQs I guess, unless you’re preflop strat involves 4betting AK or folding AQs (are you?).
He’s getting a awful price on his bluffs betting ~400 into 240.
You can fold everything except for AK/AQs, easily.

TBH I’d probably fold pre at this stack depth. You’re not deep enough to set mine. Even despite the fact that you have position.
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:31 PM   #3
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

If you don't know the range of the 3bettor just fold pre since you have 100 big blinds and you're not deep enough to setmine (not that we're always set mining with TT).

The ace smashed the 3bettor's range, so that would be a good time to fold but if you call the turn you should be planning to call a river bet.
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:39 PM   #4
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

With no other information on opponents I fold preflop to the 3 bet. It is a tight fold but the 3 bet is going to stick you with an awkward SPR post flop and other then hitting a set there are not really any flops that are good for you. You are also stuck here on knowing nothing about your opponent. These low SPR situations where villain had all of the preflop aggression and you know nothing about villain are hard to play even with position.

As played I would also fold to the turn bet. There are few non-bluff hands that make the 3 bet that are not beating you on this board and a good portion of bluffs are also.
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Old 10-12-2021, 04:55 PM   #5
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

Yeah def fold turn here. Hard to come up with a hand worse than TT in your range
on this turn.
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:03 PM   #6
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I ran it with Pio, he said folding river is kind of ok, as I d have better hands with the range I play this way.
What position did first PFR open and what position was 3bettor in?

What preflop ranges did you plug in to PIO for yourself and for 3bettor?
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:49 PM   #7
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

Yeah, i hear what everyone is saying , it may be a fold pre , even though seems so tight.
It was my first hand at the table, but I did know the villain . It was someone I played with. He is pretty good reg, capable of aggression and such.

The open was like UTG and 3bet was next to act player, and I am to the direct left.

With ranges, I thought i might 4bet shove QQ and JJ and AK.
Just call like 99+, good suited BWs like AQ , KQs, slowplayed AA, KK, some AK
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Old 10-12-2021, 05:53 PM   #8
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

And for the villain range, like a normal 3bet range, 6-8% .
Definitely not someone who only 3bets AA KK.
Could have KQ as a bluff
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Old 10-12-2021, 06:31 PM   #9
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

If the villan is good as you say. Unless he knows something about UTG his 3! range here should b quite snug since he has elected to 3 bet an UTG open from UTG+1.
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Old 10-12-2021, 07:11 PM   #10
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Re: How to play in this unusual configuration

My preflop 3-bet cold-flatting range is the empty set. Four-bet or fold. Why cap our range in an expensive pot?

I would muck TT preflop in that spot without hesitation.
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Old 10-13-2021, 01:51 AM   #11
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My preflop 3-bet cold-flatting range is the empty set. Four-bet or fold. Why cap our range in an expensive pot?

I would muck TT preflop in that spot without hesitation.
What is your 4b range here and what sizing?
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