How deep are you willing to stack off with KK?
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 4,313
Against KK+, KK is a 23% underdog. Against KK+ and AK+, KK is a 47% underdog. Against QQ+ and AK+, KK is a 57% favorite but this is really a best case scenario against most villains when deep
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,070
Correct me if I am wrong, but it's only 1 in 25 times that KK faces AA at a table of 10. Hero's 3-bet represents JJ+ or AK. Most of the time vilian is holding QQ+ or a semi-bluff with AK. If he turns up AA, that's poker. I am with Harrington here that, given the vast majority of players are overconfident in their reads of AA, it is always wrong to fold KK preflop.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 48
In my exp, once you get into 4 & 5 bets, the chances you are facing aces goes way up. Way way up. I have been AI with KK after a PF raising war when my read said "fold, he has aces". Guess what he had? Aces. I have folded KK once PF while 200+ BBs deep. Action at 2-5 went EP raise, someone 3 bets to 55, I just call because I know a 4-bet means AA or KK and I don't want to blow everyone out. Gets around to older gent who hasn't played a hand in a while and he makes it 300. What does he have I wonder? Original raiser calls. I tank for a while cuz I've never folded kings, but I just don't think they're good. I muck. Original raiser has QQ. Older gent has AA. Good fold. Flop comes 7 5 K and I'm reminded how much I love poker.